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You don't think the literal nazi salute elon gave at a rally, twice, warrants any comparisons? Or that the administration flirts with annexing Canada, Greenland

by drew-y 2y ago

You don't think the literal nazi salute elon gave at a rally, twice, warrants any comparisons? Or that the administration flirts with annexing Canada, Greenland, and Palestine? Or that their support is driven through prejudice against migrants? Ok.

chillingeffect 2y ago
The reopening of Guantanamo Bay as a concentration camp, at a cost of over $1 Billion, while elon musk's minion yank money from farmers and poor Alabamans $100 and $80,000 at a time, while tauting their own success on fox news...
Volundr 2y ago
> You don't think the literal nazi salute elon gave at a rally, twice, warrants any comparisons? Honestly? I was on team "he's a clueless weirdo" and was mostly amused by watching his supporters cortort themselves to avoid saying that... But he somehow managed to fish out and hire not one but two engineers with a history of blatant racism, and even decided to rehire the one that resigned once it became public. I generally think the whole "Nazi" thing is easy and reductive, but what the fuck?
scarab92 2y ago
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- zfg 2y ago
  > I don't think Elon gave a Nazi salute He gave two fascist salutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smQNNo2a9xc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smQNNo2a9xc > I think that comparison is based on superficial mechanistic similarities It looks exactly the same. These guys think so: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-musk-salute-reaction-right-wing-extremists-1235241866/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-mus... This guy too: https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/1i68puj/have_we_learned_nothing/ https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/1i68puj/have_we_l... Sometimes things are exactly as they appear to be.
  - scarab92 2y ago
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    - epakai 2y ago
      Those similar gestures are people waving. Most of them aren't even clips, but still shots of the wave when the hand was extended forward. It is really disingenuous to compare them. It is disappointing that we are pretending someone with the responsibility Musk carries couldn't foresee what his own body movements portray. He was at best trolling, and that is a pretty shitty thing to troll with.
      - scarab92 2y ago
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        zfg 2y ago
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      - AlecSchueler 2y ago
        There's no point getting into a discussion with someone who refuses to admit the sky is blue. You know what you saw. The difficulty with arguing against someone who doesn't care about their beliefs matching up with reality is that you have to rely on factual arguments while they do not.
    - defrost 2y ago
      > You can find clips of many politicians doing similar gestures. Really? Since Musk made his two salutes all I've seen in response have been highly selective still photos taken at low angles that make it appear Obama, Harris, etc. have been making Nazi salutes. I've yet to see a dynamic unfaked video lengthy video clip of, say, Joe Biden, throwing a Nazi salute. Do you have such a clip with details of the time and place, hosted by a major media outlet?
      - 2y ago
- AlecSchueler 2y ago
  He gave the salute. Your attempt to re-write reality will not work.
  - ndsipa_pomu 2y ago
    > He gave the salute Twice! "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." (George Orwell, 1984)
- ndsipa_pomu 2y ago
  "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." (George Orwell, 1984)
AlecSchueler 2y ago
Don't forget opening camps for undesireables or ending recognition of trans people.
- AlecSchueler 2y ago
  And referring to people receiving welfare as "parasites."

by drew-y 2y ago

chillingeffect 2y ago

The reopening of Guantanamo Bay as a concentration camp, at a cost of over $1 Billion, while elon musk's minion yank money from farmers and poor Alabamans $100 and $80,000 at a time, while tauting their own success on fox news...

Volundr 2y ago

> You don't think the literal nazi salute elon gave at a rally, twice, warrants any comparisons? Honestly? I was on team "he's a clueless weirdo" and was mostly amused by watching his supporters cortort themselves to avoid saying that... But he somehow managed to fish out and hire not one but two engineers with a history of blatant racism, and even decided to rehire the one that resigned once it became public. I generally think the whole "Nazi" thing is easy and reductive, but what the fuck?

scarab92 2y ago

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zfg 2y ago
> I don't think Elon gave a Nazi salute He gave two fascist salutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smQNNo2a9xc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smQNNo2a9xc > I think that comparison is based on superficial mechanistic similarities It looks exactly the same. These guys think so: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-musk-salute-reaction-right-wing-extremists-1235241866/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-mus... This guy too: https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/1i68puj/have_we_learned_nothing/ https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/1i68puj/have_we_l... Sometimes things are exactly as they appear to be.
- scarab92 2y ago
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  - epakai 2y ago
    Those similar gestures are people waving. Most of them aren't even clips, but still shots of the wave when the hand was extended forward. It is really disingenuous to compare them. It is disappointing that we are pretending someone with the responsibility Musk carries couldn't foresee what his own body movements portray. He was at best trolling, and that is a pretty shitty thing to troll with.
    - scarab92 2y ago
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      - zfg 2y ago
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    - AlecSchueler 2y ago
      There's no point getting into a discussion with someone who refuses to admit the sky is blue. You know what you saw. The difficulty with arguing against someone who doesn't care about their beliefs matching up with reality is that you have to rely on factual arguments while they do not.
  - defrost 2y ago
    > You can find clips of many politicians doing similar gestures. Really? Since Musk made his two salutes all I've seen in response have been highly selective still photos taken at low angles that make it appear Obama, Harris, etc. have been making Nazi salutes. I've yet to see a dynamic unfaked video lengthy video clip of, say, Joe Biden, throwing a Nazi salute. Do you have such a clip with details of the time and place, hosted by a major media outlet?
    - 2y ago
AlecSchueler 2y ago
He gave the salute. Your attempt to re-write reality will not work.
- ndsipa_pomu 2y ago
  > He gave the salute Twice! "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." (George Orwell, 1984)
ndsipa_pomu 2y ago
"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." (George Orwell, 1984)

AlecSchueler 2y ago

Don't forget opening camps for undesireables or ending recognition of trans people.

AlecSchueler 2y ago
And referring to people receiving welfare as "parasites."