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Why would you apply to work in this debacle. Ever.

drawkward 2y ago
To move slow and break DOGE?
guywithahat 2y ago
You can criticize it all you want but I'd be working directly for the President and the richest man alive, doing incredible LLM-powered work that's basically never been done before. Not only would all the work be innovative (and thus fun), but it would look incredible on a resume
- acdha 2y ago
  “Incredible” is far from a given. If DOGE doesn’t provide enough benefits to cancel out the billions if dollars of economic disruption it’s causing, or if the purported savings turn out to be misrepresentation instead of real, you look like a political hatchet man instead of an engineer. A reputation for making mistakes (like making your web site world-writable) and jumping to conclusions probably isn’t what you want.
  - deadbabe 2y ago
    Take it easy, he was just following orders.
  - nlitened 2y ago
    > If DOGE doesn’t provide enough benefits But if it does, people involved will be the part of unique historical turnaround of a falling empire, and their names will be written in gold.
    - drawkward 2y ago
      "Falling" according to a literal shit posing car salesman
  - guywithahat 2y ago
    I mean if DOGE was closed up tomorrow it would still be incredible resume candy. The fact you know multiple billionaires and a president means any VC fund would give you money to do anything, and you could get interviews at pretty much any startup. While I’m sure an insurance software salesman won’t be as impressed, it would look good for any fun job, and you’d have a set of skills nobody else has. You could probably make a living consulting, using AI to find corporate waste.
    - acdha 2y ago
      > The fact you know multiple billionaires and a president means any VC fund would give you money to do anything It might give you some contacts, but that’s far from a given. Just because Musk found you useful doesn’t mean he’s going to show loyalty to you, and that’s especially true if the venture blows up politically and you are one of the scapegoats. People don’t get to be billionaires by giving away money to everyone they meet.
  - dragonwriter 2y ago
    > If DOGE doesn’t provide enough benefits to cancel out the billions if dollars of economic disruption it’s causing, The point of DOGE is the disruption. It's a propaganda and political orthodoxy operation under a paper thin pretext of efficiency.
    - acdha 2y ago
      I agree, but I was pointing out that the promised benefits of working there were not a given but rather highly contingent on delivering serious savings. If that fails or turns out to be a pretext they never planned to deliver, the engineer who thought they were doing something good is going to be left with all of the blame and none of the money the billionaires in the room seek to gain.
- tayo42 2y ago
  > but it would look incredible on a resume working at doge? your resume would be straight in the trash if i came across it. 50% of the country might support this. The software industry, especially the lower levels like engineers and managers, leans left politically.
  - itstriz 2y ago
    Even putting the politics aside, a DOGE engineer experience on a resume would send me the message that you're the type of person who is too cowardly or corrupt to stand up against unethical and illegal assignments. Perhaps that's a good fit for some hiring managers, but it's potentially a big red flag for many others.
- lz400 2y ago
  I really hope this is an outlier and the median smart guy like you has a bit more of a moral compass and doesn't seem to willing to sell their own country for a cool line on a CV.
- bongodongobob 2y ago
  Those Doge kids are likely going to be scapegoated and sent to prison in a few years.

To move slow and break DOGE?

You can criticize it all you want but I'd be working directly for the President and the richest man alive, doing incredible LLM-powered work that's basically never been done before. Not only would all the work be innovative (and thus fun), but it would look incredible on a resume

acdha 2y ago
“Incredible” is far from a given. If DOGE doesn’t provide enough benefits to cancel out the billions if dollars of economic disruption it’s causing, or if the purported savings turn out to be misrepresentation instead of real, you look like a political hatchet man instead of an engineer. A reputation for making mistakes (like making your web site world-writable) and jumping to conclusions probably isn’t what you want.
- deadbabe 2y ago
  Take it easy, he was just following orders.
- nlitened 2y ago
  > If DOGE doesn’t provide enough benefits But if it does, people involved will be the part of unique historical turnaround of a falling empire, and their names will be written in gold.
  - drawkward 2y ago
    "Falling" according to a literal shit posing car salesman
- guywithahat 2y ago
  I mean if DOGE was closed up tomorrow it would still be incredible resume candy. The fact you know multiple billionaires and a president means any VC fund would give you money to do anything, and you could get interviews at pretty much any startup. While I’m sure an insurance software salesman won’t be as impressed, it would look good for any fun job, and you’d have a set of skills nobody else has. You could probably make a living consulting, using AI to find corporate waste.
  - acdha 2y ago
    > The fact you know multiple billionaires and a president means any VC fund would give you money to do anything It might give you some contacts, but that’s far from a given. Just because Musk found you useful doesn’t mean he’s going to show loyalty to you, and that’s especially true if the venture blows up politically and you are one of the scapegoats. People don’t get to be billionaires by giving away money to everyone they meet.
- dragonwriter 2y ago
  > If DOGE doesn’t provide enough benefits to cancel out the billions if dollars of economic disruption it’s causing, The point of DOGE is the disruption. It's a propaganda and political orthodoxy operation under a paper thin pretext of efficiency.
  - acdha 2y ago
    I agree, but I was pointing out that the promised benefits of working there were not a given but rather highly contingent on delivering serious savings. If that fails or turns out to be a pretext they never planned to deliver, the engineer who thought they were doing something good is going to be left with all of the blame and none of the money the billionaires in the room seek to gain.
tayo42 2y ago
> but it would look incredible on a resume working at doge? your resume would be straight in the trash if i came across it. 50% of the country might support this. The software industry, especially the lower levels like engineers and managers, leans left politically.
- itstriz 2y ago
  Even putting the politics aside, a DOGE engineer experience on a resume would send me the message that you're the type of person who is too cowardly or corrupt to stand up against unethical and illegal assignments. Perhaps that's a good fit for some hiring managers, but it's potentially a big red flag for many others.
lz400 2y ago
I really hope this is an outlier and the median smart guy like you has a bit more of a moral compass and doesn't seem to willing to sell their own country for a cool line on a CV.
bongodongobob 2y ago
Those Doge kids are likely going to be scapegoated and sent to prison in a few years.