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Because you're taking other people's money by threat of lethal force to pursue a 4 year party vacation and getting a degree in something useless while you're at

Because you're taking other people's money by threat of lethal force to pursue a 4 year party vacation and getting a degree in something useless while you're at it.

ModernMech 2y ago
How does that make it immoral though? "taking other people's money by threat of lethal force" in the form of taxes is seen as necessary for running society by most people, not a moral failing. And we are not talking about "party vacations" we are talking about education. Maybe this is a commentary on the state of higher education today, but there are plenty of institutions that offer a quality educational experience here; America has the #1 university system in the world. "a degree in something useless" Who determines what is useless? You? Are arts degrees for instance useless? Artists don't think so. They are not typically profitable but that's a different conversation, your qualification was "useless". What makes a degree useless, who determines that, and how? And even if we just assume a topic useless, how is giving people scholarships to study it immoral?
- HideousKojima 2y ago
  >Who determines what is useless? Presumably the people actually footing the bill
  - zimpenfish 2y ago
    > Presumably the people actually footing the bill If someone is footing the bill, does that not imply a certain amount of "we don't think this is useless"?
    - HideousKojima 2y ago
      Not when they're footing the bill under threat of violence, that's my point
throwway120385 2y ago
What are all of the things that you personally like that the government does that I might find offensive or bad?
- HideousKojima 2y ago
  >things that you personally like that the government does That's a vanishingly small list
zimpenfish 2y ago
> Because you're taking other people's money by threat of lethal force The government is doing that, not the dancer. If you consider general taxation immoral, fair enough, but then you're going to have to explain how a country can function without it. > to pursue a 4 year party vacation Boy, have I got bad news for you about a lot of students on what you'd consider more worthwhile courses. > getting a degree in something [THAT I, PERSONALLY, CONSIDER] useless Fixed that for you.

Because you're taking other people's money by threat of lethal force to pursue a 4 year party vacation and getting a degree in something useless while you're at it.

ModernMech 2y ago

How does that make it immoral though? "taking other people's money by threat of lethal force" in the form of taxes is seen as necessary for running society by most people, not a moral failing. And we are not talking about "party vacations" we are talking about education. Maybe this is a commentary on the state of higher education today, but there are plenty of institutions that offer a quality educational experience here; America has the #1 university system in the world. "a degree in something useless" Who determines what is useless? You? Are arts degrees for instance useless? Artists don't think so. They are not typically profitable but that's a different conversation, your qualification was "useless". What makes a degree useless, who determines that, and how? And even if we just assume a topic useless, how is giving people scholarships to study it immoral?

HideousKojima 2y ago
>Who determines what is useless? Presumably the people actually footing the bill
- zimpenfish 2y ago
  > Presumably the people actually footing the bill If someone is footing the bill, does that not imply a certain amount of "we don't think this is useless"?
  - HideousKojima 2y ago
    Not when they're footing the bill under threat of violence, that's my point

throwway120385 2y ago

What are all of the things that you personally like that the government does that I might find offensive or bad?

HideousKojima 2y ago
>things that you personally like that the government does That's a vanishingly small list

zimpenfish 2y ago

> Because you're taking other people's money by threat of lethal force The government is doing that, not the dancer. If you consider general taxation immoral, fair enough, but then you're going to have to explain how a country can function without it. > to pursue a 4 year party vacation Boy, have I got bad news for you about a lot of students on what you'd consider more worthwhile courses. > getting a degree in something [THAT I, PERSONALLY, CONSIDER] useless Fixed that for you.