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So what exactly makes you happy that from now one South Korean company dominates in smartphone segment? Are South Korean companies and their leaders somewhat be

by atirip 14y ago

So what exactly makes you happy that from now one South Korean company dominates in smartphone segment? Are South Korean companies and their leaders somewhat better, more ethical, more customer friendly than American or European counterparts. Why you all root for Samsung?

Tichy 14y ago
I just root for Android, or rather, for a world that is not dominated by an Apple dictatorship.
- 2muchcoffeeman 14y ago
  http://www.asymco.com/2012/03/07/the-unrelenting-trends-in-the-us-smartphone-market/ http://www.asymco.com/2012/03/07/the-unrelenting-trends-in-t... Android beat iOS is market share a long time ago. Over all I think Android phones out sell iPhones 2:1.
  - josephlord 14y ago
    But what is their lifespan in use? Based on secondhand values I suspect the effective lifespan of the iOS devices is greater and therefore the share in market is greater than the share of sales. Android is probably the more numerous still but the gap is probably much closer than the sales suggest.
    - 2muchcoffeeman 14y ago
      2nd hand sales values do appear to be higher for iOS devices. And in my mind they are usually better built. So I agree the average lifespan may be longer. But this doesn't mean that good 2nd hand Android devices don't get passed on to family or friends. All the devices in my family whether iOS or Android get passed along. The Android handsets are perfectly fine.
- benihana 14y ago
  Get a grip on reality man. A world dominated by an Apple dictatorship? They sell computers and phones. It's not a black and white dichotomy where either Android wins and Apple loses, it's just a teensy bit more complex than that.
  - Tichy 14y ago
    It is very simple: on every new Apple computer or computing device, by default you can only install software through their App Store. That means they dictate what software gets to run on their computers. I think on Macs you can manually disable that feature and allow installation of software from other sources (analogous to the App Store on Android). But how many non-power users will do that? On iOS that never was an option, and clearly Apple is trying to move in the same direction with their computers. That is a dictatorship.
    - halostatue 14y ago
      This is false. The default setting for Mountain Lion is App Store and signed applications. You can change the setting to allow only App Store or to allow any applications (signed or unsigned). I just went through signing the app that my company makes (even though, as yet, we don't need to sign because of the way we distribute). It took me the better part of a week to figure it out (mostly because I did something silly in my script), but I now have several scripts that I can use to make sure our next product is signed out of the gate. Long-time Apple supporters will tell you that Apple is (a) not requiring all apps be bought from the App store and (b) that they are making mistakes with the sandboxing entitlements that are available, causing apps to leave the App store. In my experience, die-hard anti-Apple folks (like you seem to be) prefer to distort and ignore.
      - Tichy 14y ago
        How does "signed applications" work - Apple first approves your company? I didn't know about the signed applications, but I am not sure how it changes the gist of it, Apple controlling what gets installed. Apps leaving the App store - we'll see how that will play out. Who still develops apps for "classcial" computers anyway?
jamespcole2 14y ago
Why would it matter what country it's from? Why not have a South Korean company in the lead? I don't really care what countries things are from as long as they are good products, although personally I'd rather see a South Korean company dominating than an American one.
olalonde 14y ago
> 7 - Apple domination in smartphone segment is ending. I don't see any indication it makes grand parent happy or unhappy... Typical fanboy reaction.

by atirip 14y ago

Tichy 14y ago

I just root for Android, or rather, for a world that is not dominated by an Apple dictatorship.

2muchcoffeeman 14y ago
http://www.asymco.com/2012/03/07/the-unrelenting-trends-in-the-us-smartphone-market/ http://www.asymco.com/2012/03/07/the-unrelenting-trends-in-t... Android beat iOS is market share a long time ago. Over all I think Android phones out sell iPhones 2:1.
- josephlord 14y ago
  But what is their lifespan in use? Based on secondhand values I suspect the effective lifespan of the iOS devices is greater and therefore the share in market is greater than the share of sales. Android is probably the more numerous still but the gap is probably much closer than the sales suggest.
  - 2muchcoffeeman 14y ago
    2nd hand sales values do appear to be higher for iOS devices. And in my mind they are usually better built. So I agree the average lifespan may be longer. But this doesn't mean that good 2nd hand Android devices don't get passed on to family or friends. All the devices in my family whether iOS or Android get passed along. The Android handsets are perfectly fine.
benihana 14y ago
Get a grip on reality man. A world dominated by an Apple dictatorship? They sell computers and phones. It's not a black and white dichotomy where either Android wins and Apple loses, it's just a teensy bit more complex than that.
- Tichy 14y ago
  It is very simple: on every new Apple computer or computing device, by default you can only install software through their App Store. That means they dictate what software gets to run on their computers. I think on Macs you can manually disable that feature and allow installation of software from other sources (analogous to the App Store on Android). But how many non-power users will do that? On iOS that never was an option, and clearly Apple is trying to move in the same direction with their computers. That is a dictatorship.
  - halostatue 14y ago
    This is false. The default setting for Mountain Lion is App Store and signed applications. You can change the setting to allow only App Store or to allow any applications (signed or unsigned). I just went through signing the app that my company makes (even though, as yet, we don't need to sign because of the way we distribute). It took me the better part of a week to figure it out (mostly because I did something silly in my script), but I now have several scripts that I can use to make sure our next product is signed out of the gate. Long-time Apple supporters will tell you that Apple is (a) not requiring all apps be bought from the App store and (b) that they are making mistakes with the sandboxing entitlements that are available, causing apps to leave the App store. In my experience, die-hard anti-Apple folks (like you seem to be) prefer to distort and ignore.
    - Tichy 14y ago
      How does "signed applications" work - Apple first approves your company? I didn't know about the signed applications, but I am not sure how it changes the gist of it, Apple controlling what gets installed. Apps leaving the App store - we'll see how that will play out. Who still develops apps for "classcial" computers anyway?

jamespcole2 14y ago

Why would it matter what country it's from? Why not have a South Korean company in the lead? I don't really care what countries things are from as long as they are good products, although personally I'd rather see a South Korean company dominating than an American one.

olalonde 14y ago

> 7 - Apple domination in smartphone segment is ending. I don't see any indication it makes grand parent happy or unhappy... Typical fanboy reaction.