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You're misinformed. "US Air Force fighters intercepting an unknown aircraft near the Whitehouse" don't request anything from anyone outside their chain of comm

You're misinformed. "US Air Force fighters intercepting an unknown aircraft near the Whitehouse" don't request anything from anyone outside their chain of command. That's not how anyone gets orders sir. NMCC is in charge, and any idea you have to the contrary is yours alone. Now, will NMCC, or someone in the chain, communicate with ATC as part of the response? Yes. But only for the purposes of keeping ATC apprised of the situation and informing ATC that fighters are in the area. No one is standing around waiting on the results of clearance requests in these scenarios. Your assertions would not only be bad policy, but they're contrary to military sense. My idea is to sit down and have the conversation about why certain helos are engaged in some of these dangerous practices? And if that reasoning be sufficiently compelling, to consider the pros and cons of closing DCA. If the reasoning be not compelling, then we need to have another discussion about different operating protocols for these aircraft.

kayodelycaon 2y ago
The fighters talk directly to ATC to request to a block of airspace to fly in so they don't run into anything and ATC keeps it clear. This is a regular occurrence in the DC area. This also happens with civilian aircraft like medevac helicopters. They obviously need priority but you also need to route them around stuff you can't move out of the way in time. You may not strictly need the clearance but it's a really good idea to know where it's safe to fly. > My idea is to sit down and have the conversation about why certain helos are engaged in some of these dangerous practices? This isn't different from planes colliding on a runway. There are bad procedures. The NTSB will investigate and make recommendations. The military will offer their opinions. And the FAA will ignore everything until it happens a couple more times. Or with see and avoid, bury their heads in the sand and hope the problem goes away.

kayodelycaon 2y ago

The fighters talk directly to ATC to request to a block of airspace to fly in so they don't run into anything and ATC keeps it clear. This is a regular occurrence in the DC area. This also happens with civilian aircraft like medevac helicopters. They obviously need priority but you also need to route them around stuff you can't move out of the way in time. You may not strictly need the clearance but it's a really good idea to know where it's safe to fly. > My idea is to sit down and have the conversation about why certain helos are engaged in some of these dangerous practices? This isn't different from planes colliding on a runway. There are bad procedures. The NTSB will investigate and make recommendations. The military will offer their opinions. And the FAA will ignore everything until it happens a couple more times. Or with see and avoid, bury their heads in the sand and hope the problem goes away.