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What kind of mentality is this? I remember before snapple was a widely known name they used to give out free bottles all over Los Angeles. I never thought to my

What kind of mentality is this? I remember before snapple was a widely known name they used to give out free bottles all over Los Angeles. I never thought to myself, I better not taste this free drink until I know the actual price.

santoshalper 2y ago
Totally different. You aren't adjusting your development workflow based on a soft drink. If it weren't a rug-pull, why wouldn't they charge for it immediately, or at least tell us the price now? They are specifically hoping you'll become dependent on it and then feel compelled to pay. This shit works because people like you believe it doesn't.
- pixelready 2y ago
  I can’t speak to the Zed team’s motivations for this, but unless it’s a big corp pulling a move like this it’s usually not that nefarious. Having been in these kinds of product conversations it’s more like, “that thing we prototyped? I we think it’s stable and usable enough for beta. We’re not sure how to price it yet, but let’s give it to our customers to play around with and give us some feedback while we figure out what to tweak and how much it’s worth”.
- bastardoperator 2y ago
  You're going to be adjusting regardless with new tooling, so the point is irrelevant. It's not a rug pull because they're telling you it's not free. So what if it works? I pay for useful services, you do too. My point is not exploring or being curious because a company might ask you to pay for a product, seems outlandish, because that's what companies do, they charge people for goods and services.
- dmurray 2y ago
  > If it weren't a rug-pull, why wouldn't they charge for it immediately, or at least tell us the price now? Because they haven't decided the price yet, or because they don't think the feature is mature enough to justify charging for? Though even if they really have the motivations you describe, that's fine too. There's a chance this is such a valuable feature you could feel compelled to pay any price for it, but you get to try it for free? That's purely to your benefit: it's not heroin and you won't really lose by trying it and then it being taken away.
- jeremyjh 2y ago
  They may not know enough about the cost structure of this feature to price it fairly; I could easily imagine this is heavily dependent on usage patterns and they'll need a few thousand people using it regularly before they'll know that.

santoshalper 2y ago

Totally different. You aren't adjusting your development workflow based on a soft drink. If it weren't a rug-pull, why wouldn't they charge for it immediately, or at least tell us the price now? They are specifically hoping you'll become dependent on it and then feel compelled to pay. This shit works because people like you believe it doesn't.

pixelready 2y ago
I can’t speak to the Zed team’s motivations for this, but unless it’s a big corp pulling a move like this it’s usually not that nefarious. Having been in these kinds of product conversations it’s more like, “that thing we prototyped? I we think it’s stable and usable enough for beta. We’re not sure how to price it yet, but let’s give it to our customers to play around with and give us some feedback while we figure out what to tweak and how much it’s worth”.
bastardoperator 2y ago
You're going to be adjusting regardless with new tooling, so the point is irrelevant. It's not a rug pull because they're telling you it's not free. So what if it works? I pay for useful services, you do too. My point is not exploring or being curious because a company might ask you to pay for a product, seems outlandish, because that's what companies do, they charge people for goods and services.
dmurray 2y ago
> If it weren't a rug-pull, why wouldn't they charge for it immediately, or at least tell us the price now? Because they haven't decided the price yet, or because they don't think the feature is mature enough to justify charging for? Though even if they really have the motivations you describe, that's fine too. There's a chance this is such a valuable feature you could feel compelled to pay any price for it, but you get to try it for free? That's purely to your benefit: it's not heroin and you won't really lose by trying it and then it being taken away.
jeremyjh 2y ago
They may not know enough about the cost structure of this feature to price it fairly; I could easily imagine this is heavily dependent on usage patterns and they'll need a few thousand people using it regularly before they'll know that.