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How on earth is it misleading? It simply states that Samsung smartphones outsold iPhones which runs the gamut of Apple's smartphone offerings. What other Apple

How on earth is it misleading? It simply states that Samsung smartphones outsold iPhones which runs the gamut of Apple's smartphone offerings. What other Apple smartphones are there to measure the numbers against?

gradstudent 14y ago
The title is linkbait. If the article title was honest it would read "Samsung sells more smartphones than Apple". Instead, it implies that Samsung has a top-end smartphone that sells better than Apple's iPhone. Which is not true. If you need confirmation that this is how people are interpreting the headline look no further than many of the comments in this very thread.
- watty 14y ago
  Wasn't misleading to me, and shouldn't be to you. I didn't know Samsung had just one top end smartphone, why wouldn't the title say the specific phone if that was the comparison?
- andrewfelix 14y ago
  >The title is linkbait You said the 'article' was misleading.
  - brackin 14y ago
    The article refers to one device from Apple vs tens from Samsung. I think it would be fairer to compare with one device, such as their most popular one.
    - bane 14y ago
      No, I'd rather pick the arbitrary metric of comparing the two lowest end ones. Or we could compare the end results of two different business strategies.
    - Xylakant 14y ago
      Why would that be fairer? Apple chooses to compete in the market with a clear lineup of 3 device-classes that each have multiple models differing in the amount of memory only. They don't offer low-end models. They obviously think that this is the better strategy. Samsung thinks it is better served by building more models to serve a higher range of customers. It is perfectly fair to compare which strategy fares best - and by number of units sold Samsung seems to be ahead. By revenue, Apple seems to be ahead. Whether that balance is going to tip is an interesting question, but it's not answered in this article. Unfair would be to compare the number of macs sold vs. the number of android phones sold since those devices don't compete against each other on the same market.
      - folsom 14y ago
        Apple sells the 3GS in the low end market. Edit: My view may be too US based, but the 3GS costs nothing after carrier subsidy.
        Xylakant 14y ago
        The 3GS is apples low end model, that doesn't mean it is low end compared to other models on the market. An 8GB 3GS sells for ~ 370 Euros. That price may be a bargain for that model, but I can buy Samsung phones much much cheaper. Edit: Response to the parents edit: Yes, your view is US-based. If I buy a phone and get a phone contract without subsidy, my contract is cheaper - up to 10 euros/month. I'd be surprised if that's much different in the US - you always pay for the subsidy in one way or another.
        hammersend 14y ago
        Any phone with a 480x320 screen and free on contract (at least in the US) is low end. The iPhone 4 would be midrange and the 4S would be high but not the highest end.
        Xylakant 14y ago
        The 3GS is not free on contract in Germany. Fact is that there are cheaper phones and that may be of importance in markets where the average wage is lower than in the us. And since the article is about world-wide number of devices shipped, that makes a diffence.
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    - smackfu 14y ago
      In what world are the iPhone 3GS and the iPhone 4 the same device? Completely different hardware that runs the same OS, just like Samsung.
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- neya 14y ago
  The title conveys the message perfectly. You are upset about the fact and you want to blame someone for it, this time, the title. Don't worry, time will heal.
  - bane 14y ago
    Right, my side is losing in revenue, so I pick profit, now it's losing in profit so I pick number of shipped devices, now it's losing in that so I pick activations, or "time using phone per day" or whatever makes me feel good.
vidarh 14y ago
This happens all the time when people make Apple / iPhone vs some-Android-manufacturer / Android comparisons - someone from whatever "side" has the lower number always tries to re-frame the competition about being about another metric, as if the whole thing will be done and settled if we only have a number to tell us which is better.
iuguy 14y ago
It's not outsold. It's outshipped, and it's outshipping large multiples of SKUs against Apple's.

gradstudent 14y ago

The title is linkbait. If the article title was honest it would read "Samsung sells more smartphones than Apple". Instead, it implies that Samsung has a top-end smartphone that sells better than Apple's iPhone. Which is not true. If you need confirmation that this is how people are interpreting the headline look no further than many of the comments in this very thread.

watty 14y ago
Wasn't misleading to me, and shouldn't be to you. I didn't know Samsung had just one top end smartphone, why wouldn't the title say the specific phone if that was the comparison?
andrewfelix 14y ago
>The title is linkbait You said the 'article' was misleading.
- brackin 14y ago
  The article refers to one device from Apple vs tens from Samsung. I think it would be fairer to compare with one device, such as their most popular one.
  - bane 14y ago
    No, I'd rather pick the arbitrary metric of comparing the two lowest end ones. Or we could compare the end results of two different business strategies.
  - Xylakant 14y ago
    Why would that be fairer? Apple chooses to compete in the market with a clear lineup of 3 device-classes that each have multiple models differing in the amount of memory only. They don't offer low-end models. They obviously think that this is the better strategy. Samsung thinks it is better served by building more models to serve a higher range of customers. It is perfectly fair to compare which strategy fares best - and by number of units sold Samsung seems to be ahead. By revenue, Apple seems to be ahead. Whether that balance is going to tip is an interesting question, but it's not answered in this article. Unfair would be to compare the number of macs sold vs. the number of android phones sold since those devices don't compete against each other on the same market.
    - folsom 14y ago
      Apple sells the 3GS in the low end market. Edit: My view may be too US based, but the 3GS costs nothing after carrier subsidy.
      - Xylakant 14y ago
        The 3GS is apples low end model, that doesn't mean it is low end compared to other models on the market. An 8GB 3GS sells for ~ 370 Euros. That price may be a bargain for that model, but I can buy Samsung phones much much cheaper. Edit: Response to the parents edit: Yes, your view is US-based. If I buy a phone and get a phone contract without subsidy, my contract is cheaper - up to 10 euros/month. I'd be surprised if that's much different in the US - you always pay for the subsidy in one way or another.
        hammersend 14y ago
        Any phone with a 480x320 screen and free on contract (at least in the US) is low end. The iPhone 4 would be midrange and the 4S would be high but not the highest end.
        Xylakant 14y ago
        The 3GS is not free on contract in Germany. Fact is that there are cheaper phones and that may be of importance in markets where the average wage is lower than in the us. And since the article is about world-wide number of devices shipped, that makes a diffence.
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  - smackfu 14y ago
    In what world are the iPhone 3GS and the iPhone 4 the same device? Completely different hardware that runs the same OS, just like Samsung.
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neya 14y ago
The title conveys the message perfectly. You are upset about the fact and you want to blame someone for it, this time, the title. Don't worry, time will heal.
- bane 14y ago
  Right, my side is losing in revenue, so I pick profit, now it's losing in profit so I pick number of shipped devices, now it's losing in that so I pick activations, or "time using phone per day" or whatever makes me feel good.

vidarh 14y ago

This happens all the time when people make Apple / iPhone vs some-Android-manufacturer / Android comparisons - someone from whatever "side" has the lower number always tries to re-frame the competition about being about another metric, as if the whole thing will be done and settled if we only have a number to tell us which is better.

iuguy 14y ago

It's not outsold. It's outshipped, and it's outshipping large multiples of SKUs against Apple's.