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There's no way that doctors in the US continue their training. I suffer from a chronic illness. I saw 5 different specialists over the past 2 years, and each o

by afpx 2y ago

There's no way that doctors in the US continue their training. I suffer from a chronic illness. I saw 5 different specialists over the past 2 years, and each one gave me different treatment. A couple even relied on information from the 70s and 80s. One even put me in the ER because he changed my treatment after I explicitly told him not to. Another example: Back in my 20s, I injured my back. I took my MRI results to six different doctors - and I'm serious here, every one gave me a different diagnosis. In the end, I fixed it myself by doing my own research and treatment (2 years of physical therapy). One doctor said I had pain because spine fragments were lodged in my spinal cord (not true). Two of the doctors were even pushing me into invasive surgeries, and I'm so glad I told them no. I don't understand the praise for doctors. If I had to generalize, I'd guess the majority give up learning after achieving wealth and status. seems like an art and not a science. I will emphatically welcome AI treatment.

jayd16 2y ago
If you don't respect the field in general, why do you think an AI amalgamation of that field to be better?
- afpx 2y ago
  I respect the research and researchers - but medical researchers are far removed from medical practitioners.
PaulHoule 2y ago
Continuous improvement is the norm in cancer treatment, not in other areas where diseases are ill-defined and have a huge psychogenic component: back pain is the index case for that, so is TMJ dysfunction. In either case you might go from disabled to 'I have a bad day once a month' with a 20% change in habits and 80% change in attitude. My dad, who worked in construction, got disabling back pain just in time for the Volcker-Freedman recession [1] His doc wanted to give him surgery which had the risk of being even more disabling, he said he'd go to a chiropractor, his doc said "if you don't do that then don't see me". I remember him taking me along for his chiropractor visits and getting a waterbed (bad idea.) He was on workman's comp at the time but got better around the time the economy got better and work was available again. Not to say he was consciously malingering, but work-associated pain has a lot to do with how you feel about your work. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_1980s_recession https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_1980s_recession

by afpx 2y ago

jayd16 2y ago

If you don't respect the field in general, why do you think an AI amalgamation of that field to be better?

afpx 2y ago
I respect the research and researchers - but medical researchers are far removed from medical practitioners.

PaulHoule 2y ago

Continuous improvement is the norm in cancer treatment, not in other areas where diseases are ill-defined and have a huge psychogenic component: back pain is the index case for that, so is TMJ dysfunction. In either case you might go from disabled to 'I have a bad day once a month' with a 20% change in habits and 80% change in attitude. My dad, who worked in construction, got disabling back pain just in time for the Volcker-Freedman recession [1] His doc wanted to give him surgery which had the risk of being even more disabling, he said he'd go to a chiropractor, his doc said "if you don't do that then don't see me". I remember him taking me along for his chiropractor visits and getting a waterbed (bad idea.) He was on workman's comp at the time but got better around the time the economy got better and work was available again. Not to say he was consciously malingering, but work-associated pain has a lot to do with how you feel about your work. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_1980s_recession https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_1980s_recession