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If you want to see removal of QI from your State's largest violent and corrupt gang, contact your state congress critters. CO banned QI. https://www.kxlf.com/n

by p_ing 2y ago

If you want to see removal of QI from your State's largest violent and corrupt gang, contact your state congress critters. CO banned QI. https://www.kxlf.com/news/national/an-inside-look-at-colorados-year-old-qualified-immunity-ban https://www.kxlf.com/news/national/an-inside-look-at-colorad...

yieldcrv 2y ago
doesn't look like that's working out in CO that well, aside from some officers resigning, which is a step. I'm curious how the federal court would view any of those colorado cases if it went up to them.
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- p_ing 2y ago
  How is it not working out? Seems citizens are getting some monetary damages, even if they're limited to $25k. I don't see resigning as a bad thing (not that you're representing it that way); if you want to resign because you feel like you need/want to violate someone's rights, you shouldn't have been there to begin with. Is a full capacity police force with a significant number of 'bad apples' better or worse than one down by half, or more, with little to no 'bad apples'?
  - yieldcrv 2y ago
    In my wishlist of accountability I want a tree of liability For example, the partners are automatically accomplices and liable Any discrepancy in police reports and footage/evidence triggers the same civil violation and criminal violation this is useful because now we dont need all the fanfare of going to trial just to find out the actual aggression was called it ‘justified’ using an opaque standard control behavior by regulating the intermediary. In this case I can think of many more intermediaries that civil and criminal liability can extend to for the actions of one bad apple partner, department, union, pension, municipality and an offenders list that follows the officer ideally to keep them off of the neighboring town’s force, and ostracized from most living arrangements I think of nodes in a graph, the officer being one node, but now all the surrounding nodes at risk of being affected will keep the one officer in line, and demand reforms in the department for greater than citizens, judges or the legislature can do I was also thinking to involve the federal government. Municipalities ability to raise capital becoming much more expensive based on how their officers act
    - p_ing 2y ago
      Not a bad ider at all. I like the eye for an eye violation. You sure you want the Feds involved? lol :(
      - yieldcrv 2y ago
        in this case the fed would be the SEC, municipalities are exempt from reporting as is, LE incidents would remove that exemption and require some levels of transparency related to the municipalities LE incidents, to let people know what they are funding
        yieldcrv 2y ago
        I take inspiration from the RICO act, an indictment triggers many things at the once
thephyber 2y ago
It’s possible, but the police unions run huge PR campaigns and lie about the actual effects of changing QI. Citation: cop in my family repeats those lies.

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yieldcrv 2y ago

doesn't look like that's working out in CO that well, aside from some officers resigning, which is a step. I'm curious how the federal court would view any of those colorado cases if it went up to them.

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p_ing 2y ago
How is it not working out? Seems citizens are getting some monetary damages, even if they're limited to $25k. I don't see resigning as a bad thing (not that you're representing it that way); if you want to resign because you feel like you need/want to violate someone's rights, you shouldn't have been there to begin with. Is a full capacity police force with a significant number of 'bad apples' better or worse than one down by half, or more, with little to no 'bad apples'?
- yieldcrv 2y ago
  In my wishlist of accountability I want a tree of liability For example, the partners are automatically accomplices and liable Any discrepancy in police reports and footage/evidence triggers the same civil violation and criminal violation this is useful because now we dont need all the fanfare of going to trial just to find out the actual aggression was called it ‘justified’ using an opaque standard control behavior by regulating the intermediary. In this case I can think of many more intermediaries that civil and criminal liability can extend to for the actions of one bad apple partner, department, union, pension, municipality and an offenders list that follows the officer ideally to keep them off of the neighboring town’s force, and ostracized from most living arrangements I think of nodes in a graph, the officer being one node, but now all the surrounding nodes at risk of being affected will keep the one officer in line, and demand reforms in the department for greater than citizens, judges or the legislature can do I was also thinking to involve the federal government. Municipalities ability to raise capital becoming much more expensive based on how their officers act
  - p_ing 2y ago
    Not a bad ider at all. I like the eye for an eye violation. You sure you want the Feds involved? lol :(
    - yieldcrv 2y ago
      in this case the fed would be the SEC, municipalities are exempt from reporting as is, LE incidents would remove that exemption and require some levels of transparency related to the municipalities LE incidents, to let people know what they are funding
      - yieldcrv 2y ago
        I take inspiration from the RICO act, an indictment triggers many things at the once

thephyber 2y ago

It’s possible, but the police unions run huge PR campaigns and lie about the actual effects of changing QI. Citation: cop in my family repeats those lies.