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- tootie 2y agoSure hope they patched this site before publishing all this https://www.404media.co/anyone-can-push-updates-to-the-doge-gov-website-2/ https://www.404media.co/anyone-can-push-updates-to-the-doge-...
- moolcool 2y agoApparently not https://doge.gov/workforce?orgId=7cd300eb-cf3f-47f5-90f1-9e66a8bc8d07&ref=404media.co https://doge.gov/workforce?orgId=7cd300eb-cf3f-47f5-90f1-9e6...
- SketchySeaBeast 2y agoI'm not sure why, but the sheer incompetence makes me even more angry. Sure, they are running roughshod across important institutions, ignorantly tearing everything apart, but the fact they are so poor at it is infuriating. There's a million competent devs in the world, but Elon chose amateur fanboys. If you're going to take apart democracy, have some goddamn professional pride.
- diggan 2y agoIt's probably pretty obvious to you too, but spelling it out just in case it isn't as clear to everyone: These people are not chosen based on their skill or experience, but most likely by loyalty or some other similar metric. It's literally the fascist playbook updated for modern times, for when you want to dismantle institutions.
- SketchySeaBeast 2y agoThe only solace I can find is that when the day comes to fight back their poorly constructed edifices will crumble at the first push. Unfortunately they'll have built theirs on the ruins of democracy and we'll just be adding to the rubble.
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- jeltz 2y agoIf Elon had selected a team of actual competent devs he would need to worry about them saying no to his idiotic ideas. These people were chosen because they were spineless yes-men and workaholics, not because they were competent. Plus most competent devs would not want to get into this mess in the first place.
- SketchySeaBeast 2y agoYeah, I'm sure that was it. He didn't want to hear that it would take a year of combing the code-base before we'd be willing to make changes.
- jeltz 2y agoYeah, I am pretty sure that is it. Most of us have worked with a guy like Musk, someone who hates hearing that doing things the right way actually takes time.
- et-al 2y agoNew regimes have often relied on child soldiers who don’t have a developed moral compass to question their actions.
- _fat_santa 2y agohttps://archive.is/mu6Bp https://archive.is/mu6Bp
- gen_greyface 2y agosome fun links https://doge.gov/workforce?orgId=7cd300eb-cf3f-47f5-90f1-9e66a8bc8d07&ref=404media.co https://doge.gov/workforce?orgId=7cd300eb-cf3f-47f5-90f1-9e6... https://doge.gov/workforce?orgId=1&ref=404media.co https://doge.gov/workforce?orgId=1&ref=404media.co https://www.404media.co/anyone-can-push-updates-to-the-doge-gov-website-2/ https://www.404media.co/anyone-can-push-updates-to-the-doge-...
- diggan 2y agoTheoretically, if someone defaces a government website like that, could the punishment be harsher than any other random website? Hope people were wearing protection.
- jonstewart 2y agoThat would require a functional Justice department. Welcome to the kakistocracy!
- BSOhealth 2y agoThe fact that the entries are still there is also fascinating. No one awake in D.C. to login and delete the entries?
- ForHackernews 2y agoI guess it's not on Elon's twitter feed yet.
- alistairSH 2y agoSomebody build a dashboard that simply replicates data already available on the OPM site[1]... Much efficiency! Many Savings! Wow. What a dumpster fire. 1 - Hopefully this link works. It's to an OPM report built in Cognos and publicly available... https://www.fedscope.opm.gov/ibmcognos/bi/v1/disp?b_action=powerPlayService&m_encoding=UTF-8&BZ=1AAABnsT72MN42oVOsW6DQAz9mTNph0Y_wyVhYIDjUBiANLBXlFzSqsBFcB3y9xUwpFWGvidL9vN7lp2yWJdVcVRpHIzWDDqNn4DocyNI4jZU6PncQ0%7EtfIHRZiO5UKREtAWiZ2fKqvAo94ew2gdASWN6q3sLlJxNe9IDiAg87OtOgxuvDnXzVV%7E0_Ka6a2tune7tCkQMlFyXzV%7E73QWEL0Aov4dhmTLT248p68SlXMsiz5Ws0iLPw0wF%7E_Wc6DU4IzKOiJwjYwyZQEbIJjIWXnTf3IAQ6ASEYdsC_pkZ7eMpQJ8B7YBcBNIc6B3IXwR_F9gMIHey%7EwKfOXfLO3MtTyz4AbZLbJc%3D https://www.fedscope.opm.gov/ibmcognos/bi/v1/disp?b_action=p...
- diggan 2y agoCorrect me if I'm wrong, the "OPM report" is just the headcount? The linked "Org Chart" seems to at least add wages, age groups, and years of tenure, so not exactly the same as far as I can tell?
- ipython 2y agoYou can add those facets on the left
- diggan 2y agoRight, you could manually build the same experience, granted you know how to use the tool? Sounds a bit like the stereo-typical Dropbox comment, "You could get the same with the raw data, add your own filters, setup the facets from the left side and ...." while the submission website just plainly render the data. The UX seems different enough to be more for the common person, rather than people who mangle/unmangle data for a living.
- ipython 2y agoYou've moved the goalposts. Your previous comment implied that the OPM data set does not include the facets for age, tenure, salary band, etc that the DOGE website presents. That's incorrect- the OPM data set includes those facets. Since you've brought up UX, check out usafacts.org (mentioned on HN a few days ago). For example, a graph of the age of the federal workforce over time: https://usafacts.org/articles/how-old-is-the-federal-workforce/ https://usafacts.org/articles/how-old-is-the-federal-workfor.... Or the federal workforce size over time: https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-people-work-for-the-federal-government/ https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-people-work-for-the-f.... They also link back to the original raw OPM data sets. The point stands, the data is publicly available. DOGE isn't creating some new radical transparency for the federal government. They're not even the first to reformat the data in a UX friendly manner. AFAICT all they've done is skinned it with "dark mode" and managed to put injection vulns in a .gov website.
- echelon 2y agoThe "Unconstitutionality Index" and the meme dollar bill logo are wild.
- soared 2y agoCongress funds and sets goals for an agency. Agency creates rules to accomplish those goals. Said rules are now unconstitutional? Clearly it’s fake news if some sort to support them burning everything down. Same idea with the tweets - “we deleted 50m in contracts. Here is one example of 1M of a title that sounds crazy”
- Cornbilly 2y agoThe “tech geniuses” left their database unsecured. Can’t wait to see how they handle all the data they’ve had access to.
- washedup 2y agoThe Dollar Sign at the top left corner is ridiculous. What a joke.
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- Trasmatta 2y agoRight on cue
- SketchySeaBeast 2y agoI can't figure it out, is it people who believe this doesn't matter, people who are actively cheering this on, or people who think this won't lead to a good discussion? I can see the argument for the latter, it's ultimately not something the invokes interests as much as outrage, but I don't know how many people are doing it for that reason.
- pcmaffey 2y agoMy current theory is that it’s people in the throes of guilt, who voted for this, but can’t handle the daily reminder of the repercussions of their choices on the front page.
- soared 2y agoPolitical content is technically off topic and shouldn’t be submitted per guidelines, but this seemingly falls into new and interesting. Not that that justifies a flag though.
- SketchySeaBeast 2y agoYeah, I'd argue this is definitely "evidence of some interesting new phenomenon" in politics. Though I guess this isn't that new, not really.
- relaxing 2y agoAll this doge stuff is about tech though?
- discardedrefuse 2y ago
- fhub 2y ago“The top operatives of DOGE are reported to be young, tech-savvy “hackers” with unprecedented access to systems holding everything from personnel records to highly sensitive financial data.” - Forbes Doge.gov database left open. Mind boggles.
- diggan 2y agoFun easter-egg on the "Savings" page: > Receipts coming soon, no later than Valentine's day Today is February 14th :)
- andsoitis 2y agoI'm curious how much the new Chief of Staff makes. Alas, Doge is not being transparent: https://doge.gov/workforce?orgId=b972b459-e161-490e-ac0a-27d96538b888 https://doge.gov/workforce?orgId=b972b459-e161-490e-ac0a-27d...
- dgrin91 2y agoBasically all federal pay data is made public, so in this case its less of doge not being transparent and more of they haven't gotten to it yet (my guess). The Chief of Staff makes ~180-200k, if I remember, but I haven't looked it up for current admin. Also in this case it might not be public _yet_ because it might still be before the disclosure deadline (since the admin is still new).
- andsoitis 2y ago> Basically all federal pay data is made public, so in this case its less of doge not being transparent and more of they haven't gotten to it yet (my guess). So they are looking to republish information that is already public? That seems like a waste of resources, no?
- dragonwriter 2y ago> So they are looking to republish information that is already public? That seems like a waste of resources, no? But its public without the political spin DOGE is attaching to it, which is DOGE's actual "value add".
- Trasmatta 2y agoPure propaganda, Musk doesn't care about saving the government money
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- legitster 2y agoCan anyone find DOGE itself via these charts?
- xnx 2y ago> Workforce data excludes Military, Postal Service, White House, intelligence agencies, and others > This is DOGE's effort to create a comprehensive, government-wide org chart. What's the logic behind these exclusions? They just haven't gotten there yet?
- silexia 2y agoLaws prevent it.
- washedup 2y agoWas flagged, that was fast
- blastonico 2y agoHave to admit these guys are doing well
- tootie 2y agoWas their remit to republish public data and then cancel medical research and foreign aid? Then no, they are not doing well.
- nickthegreek 2y agoWhat metrics are you using to come to this conclusion?
- josefritzishere 2y agoNobody voted for President Musk.
- JohnCClarke 2y agoThe USA federal government spent $6.75T in FY2024. This website painstakingly tracks 3% of that. It would be more honest of Doge to say what of the 97% is to be cut, and where that will fall.
- readthenotes1 2y agoTop 4 spending functions : Social security, Medicare, Medicaid, defense The mandatory spending is about half... https://www.pgpf.org/article/top-10-largest-budget-functions/ https://www.pgpf.org/article/top-10-largest-budget-functions...