But what if there are lots of diverse and good engineers, and somehow you always end up having to choose between a couple homogeneous ones? To me, that's what D

But what if there are lots of diverse and good engineers, and somehow you always end up having to choose between a couple homogeneous ones? To me, that's what DEI in hiring tries to solve. It's not the FUD of "ohh, select the non-white". It's more of making sure one actually gets a representative collection to even choose between. Might be as simple as assessing how the interviews are conducted. Are they take-home tests someone with a small child will not be able to have time for? Is it unpaid internships only certain people can afford to do? Etc.