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Contrarian view: One "false-positive" example that a simplistic and sloppy "ctrl+F" caught is being highlighted to unfairly criticize a political proposal (in t

Contrarian view: One "false-positive" example that a simplistic and sloppy "ctrl+F" caught is being highlighted to unfairly criticize a political proposal (in this particular case, dismissing DEI extremisms). This is old as the world.

pjc50 2y ago
Of course, the whole anti-DEI movement is based on finding one extreme example and then using it to delete entire government departments and fields of study.
- galfarragem 2y ago
  In the end we just discord in one function: what to do in case of doubt? Cut or keep. Recent examples (Milei, Bukele) seem to favor the "cut" option.
- Vaslo 2y ago
  So this is ok then? Sounds like you approve of the anti-DEI approach.
trenchgun 2y ago
What is an appropriate false positive rate for canceling already approved research funding based on political motivations on a mass scale?
- galfarragem 2y ago
  I'm sure this particular example will be gladly rolled-back. This "aggressive" stategy is working wonders in several quadrants. I recall Milei and Bukele.
- lostmsu 2y ago
  What do you think it is?
ndsipa_pomu 2y ago
How could it be classified as "unfair criticism" if the political proposal has made a very specific mistake in this instance? Should we not criticise a mistake simply because they are to be considered infallible or should we point it out so that they can learn and correct it? (Assuming that they are acting in good faith)
- galfarragem 2y ago
  Free speech and criticizing mistakes is great but there's already comments comparing Trump's US to Weimar's Germany..
  - ndsipa_pomu 2y ago
    It's a very concerning and valid comparison. I holidayed in Munich a couple of years ago and the Holocaust museum has a very instructive section that details a lot of specifics around Hitler's rise to power. I'm certainly seeing the same pattern beginning to happen in the U.S. with the "othering" of certain people and the clamping down on certain opinions/political leanings. Are you suggesting that it's not a valid comparison, or that it's not safe to speak out against the administration?

pjc50 2y ago

Of course, the whole anti-DEI movement is based on finding one extreme example and then using it to delete entire government departments and fields of study.

galfarragem 2y ago
In the end we just discord in one function: what to do in case of doubt? Cut or keep. Recent examples (Milei, Bukele) seem to favor the "cut" option.
Vaslo 2y ago
So this is ok then? Sounds like you approve of the anti-DEI approach.

trenchgun 2y ago

What is an appropriate false positive rate for canceling already approved research funding based on political motivations on a mass scale?

galfarragem 2y ago
I'm sure this particular example will be gladly rolled-back. This "aggressive" stategy is working wonders in several quadrants. I recall Milei and Bukele.
lostmsu 2y ago
What do you think it is?

ndsipa_pomu 2y ago

How could it be classified as "unfair criticism" if the political proposal has made a very specific mistake in this instance? Should we not criticise a mistake simply because they are to be considered infallible or should we point it out so that they can learn and correct it? (Assuming that they are acting in good faith)

galfarragem 2y ago
Free speech and criticizing mistakes is great but there's already comments comparing Trump's US to Weimar's Germany..
- ndsipa_pomu 2y ago
  It's a very concerning and valid comparison. I holidayed in Munich a couple of years ago and the Holocaust museum has a very instructive section that details a lot of specifics around Hitler's rise to power. I'm certainly seeing the same pattern beginning to happen in the U.S. with the "othering" of certain people and the clamping down on certain opinions/political leanings. Are you suggesting that it's not a valid comparison, or that it's not safe to speak out against the administration?