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> I think their point was a military incursion is just as likely in Panama as Canada Greenland and Gaza. Can you honestly picture boots on the ground in any one

> I think their point was a military incursion is just as likely in Panama as Canada Greenland and Gaza. Can you honestly picture boots on the ground in any one of these? Military is irrelevant here. You don't need boots on the ground to throw a country into chaos. Did Russia and China send soldiers on American soil to make the US as unstable as it is right now (...leading to people's desires to seek a more stable country)? The concern was regarding stability, healthcare, etc. which means economic and political stability. How stable do you think Panama would be in (say) an economic war with the US that is focused on controlling their canal? What if the US decides to covertly influence their government (or worse)? But to answer your question directly anyway: for Canada he specifically said "economic force", not military. For Gaza, he said Israel would handle the military aspect and hand it over. For Greenland, the military is already there, but also it's not like they would meet any resistance via combat there. For Panama... it seems unlikely but it's also hard to put anything past him. Not because of his word, but because his actions are just so unpredictable.

Propelloni 2y ago
> Did Russia and China send soldiers on American soil to make the US as unstable as it is right now Wait a minute. We did this to ourselves. Of course do Russia and China meddle in the USA's infosphere (just like we meddle in their infospheres), but there are always two involved: those meddling and those believing it. I mean, Reptiloids, blood-harvesting, Pizzagate... Seriously, what would China have to put in your china to make you gullible enough to believe that? Yet there are obviously people out there that do believe. It made headlines! Unlike China or Russia it still matters in the USA what the population believes. Thus we, as members of the general public, regardless of our political leaning, cannot exculpate us from the state of the nation by pointing at some foreign power and say "they made me do it". As an expat I thought, I could keep out of it, but I can't. We have to face up to the fact that all of this is our doing and nobody forced us to do it.
- dataflow 2y ago
  > Wait a minute. We did this to ourselves. Of course do Russia and China meddle in the USA's infosphere (just like we meddle in their infospheres), but there are always two involved I have no clue what this has to do with the current discussion. Yes, there are two involved. Panamanians could also become similarly involved in any instability the US decides to sow there. How does that imply Panama is going to be stable? Are you under the impression that Panamanians are somehow immune to to this?

Propelloni 2y ago

> Did Russia and China send soldiers on American soil to make the US as unstable as it is right now Wait a minute. We did this to ourselves. Of course do Russia and China meddle in the USA's infosphere (just like we meddle in their infospheres), but there are always two involved: those meddling and those believing it. I mean, Reptiloids, blood-harvesting, Pizzagate... Seriously, what would China have to put in your china to make you gullible enough to believe that? Yet there are obviously people out there that do believe. It made headlines! Unlike China or Russia it still matters in the USA what the population believes. Thus we, as members of the general public, regardless of our political leaning, cannot exculpate us from the state of the nation by pointing at some foreign power and say "they made me do it". As an expat I thought, I could keep out of it, but I can't. We have to face up to the fact that all of this is our doing and nobody forced us to do it.

dataflow 2y ago
> Wait a minute. We did this to ourselves. Of course do Russia and China meddle in the USA's infosphere (just like we meddle in their infospheres), but there are always two involved I have no clue what this has to do with the current discussion. Yes, there are two involved. Panamanians could also become similarly involved in any instability the US decides to sow there. How does that imply Panama is going to be stable? Are you under the impression that Panamanians are somehow immune to to this?