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> And if you decide after your PhD, that you’ll join the industry, you’ve lost out on 5 years of compounded growth financially and personally. It’s not like a P

by jajko 2y ago

> And if you decide after your PhD, that you’ll join the industry, you’ve lost out on 5 years of compounded growth financially and personally. It’s not like a PhD gets you more money in 95% of the jobs. 5 years of professional experience beat a phd title in 98-99% of IT job searches, no question there. I would even more deeply probe such a candidate for good personality match with rest of the team and company overall, ie sometimes one has to suck it up and do non-ideal solution instead of having endless discussions about ideal one. And IMHO folks form academia are sometimes tad too idealistic and need additional 'baby-sitting', pushing them even further into junior less-ideal box. Smart alone is mostly meaningless when not harnessed efficiently.

aleph_minus_one 2y ago
So you want coworkers who don't care much for the quality of their coding work?
- pertymcpert 2y ago
  That's a much better scenario than having coworkers who are difficult to work with.
- f1shy 2y ago
  That is NOT what he wrote! Is about finding an optimum of all the variables. Also "the best technical solution" is not always the best solution for a company, which at the end, cares only about making money.
- jajko 2y ago
  No project I ever delivered in my 20 years of work was ever perfect, shortcuts and even 'hacks' were needed. We don't live in ideal world, budgets are constrained, changes come at last minute that sometimes require massive refactoring, you get unexpected delays on weird bugs or processes taking too long or other teams facing issues or their processes taking too long, and so on and on. Business doesn't care nor understand any of this, they want their features, without visible bugs, on time, the rest is mostly irrelevant academic discussions for them. I don't say its ideal but this is world I live in and worked in, all big companies are same in this regard. They just don't view IT stuff as something unique and super fragile and treat it and expect form it cca same level as from other parts of their businesses. I've never worked for FAANG type of company as you can see, IT is always just a cost center. I give stakeholders honest feedback with taking into account their view and expectations, and never ever over-engineer things since from what I've witnessed its mostly selfish endeavor of bored brilliant people or CV chasers, not something business would want to see since risk exposure is a big '?'. KISS is really above it all and business loves it, especially long term. Can't sell a lot of BS with it but thats not my style. I call it being a dependable professional.
- vishnugupta 2y ago
  You don’t need a PhD to be better at or care about quality of coding.
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by jajko 2y ago

aleph_minus_one 2y ago

So you want coworkers who don't care much for the quality of their coding work?

pertymcpert 2y ago
That's a much better scenario than having coworkers who are difficult to work with.
f1shy 2y ago
That is NOT what he wrote! Is about finding an optimum of all the variables. Also "the best technical solution" is not always the best solution for a company, which at the end, cares only about making money.
jajko 2y ago
No project I ever delivered in my 20 years of work was ever perfect, shortcuts and even 'hacks' were needed. We don't live in ideal world, budgets are constrained, changes come at last minute that sometimes require massive refactoring, you get unexpected delays on weird bugs or processes taking too long or other teams facing issues or their processes taking too long, and so on and on. Business doesn't care nor understand any of this, they want their features, without visible bugs, on time, the rest is mostly irrelevant academic discussions for them. I don't say its ideal but this is world I live in and worked in, all big companies are same in this regard. They just don't view IT stuff as something unique and super fragile and treat it and expect form it cca same level as from other parts of their businesses. I've never worked for FAANG type of company as you can see, IT is always just a cost center. I give stakeholders honest feedback with taking into account their view and expectations, and never ever over-engineer things since from what I've witnessed its mostly selfish endeavor of bored brilliant people or CV chasers, not something business would want to see since risk exposure is a big '?'. KISS is really above it all and business loves it, especially long term. Can't sell a lot of BS with it but thats not my style. I call it being a dependable professional.
vishnugupta 2y ago
You don’t need a PhD to be better at or care about quality of coding.

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