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Because that same line of questioning (Marcan being Lina) has been entertained by said right-wing forum, ergo this should be purged to avoid giving them "juice"

by alt187 2y ago

Because that same line of questioning (Marcan being Lina) has been entertained by said right-wing forum, ergo this should be purged to avoid giving them "juice".

groby_b 2y ago
That's not at all what I'm saying. This specific case involves a specific group of people. I'd be equally annoyed if people on the other side of the spectrum used what amounts to a bug in HN to influence search ranking for a smear campaign. HN makes flagged posts and subthreads invisible to its average users (you need to link to the subthread), but keeps them fully searchable. And does not moderate them. As a result, it's an easy way to deposit unreviewed content on a high-reputation website, leeching of that reputation. It's got nothing to do with politics, and everything with the fact that when you allow a community to be publicly associated with content without letting the community see or moderate the content, you're damaging the community's reputation. HN should fix the bug. That's all. Everybody involved in this particular drama is entirely entitled to say whatever the heck they want, just not under the cover of being pretend-part of this community.
- alt187 2y ago
  But the only reason that makes you think that they belong to said right-wing forum is because they entertain this talking point, and their dislike of Marcan. It sounds quite cyclical. They dislike Marcan because they're alt-right users leeching off this community's reputation, which is obvious because they dislike Marcan. The people on the link you sent, they, uh, have a long comment history. No one is being "pretend-part" of the community here. Or am I missing some context?
anonfordays 2y ago
Marcan is Lina. It's no longer something to be questioned. https://x.com/LunaFoxgirlVT/status/1887896920732876819 https://x.com/LunaFoxgirlVT/status/1887896920732876819 > It's the worst kept secret in history that I had to keep alive, I have no interest in keeping it alive anymore. > I mean, Lina started as an april fools joke on Marcan's youtube channel https://x.com/LunaFoxgirlVT/status/1887897472527458689 https://x.com/LunaFoxgirlVT/status/1887897472527458689 > So yes, Marcan is Asahi Lina, Asahi Lina is Marcan. It's not a secret, it never really was. > Only really became one when Marcan found out he liked vtubing. And if you don't like Twitter, Luna is also saying it on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/lunafoxgirlvt.foxgirls.gay/post/3lh https://bsky.app/profile/lunafoxgirlvt.foxgirls.gay/post/3lh... > My abuser (asahi lina/marcan) is a Linux kernel contributor.

by alt187 2y ago

Because that same line of questioning (Marcan being Lina) has been entertained by said right-wing forum, ergo this should be purged to avoid giving them "juice".

groby_b 2y ago

That's not at all what I'm saying. This specific case involves a specific group of people. I'd be equally annoyed if people on the other side of the spectrum used what amounts to a bug in HN to influence search ranking for a smear campaign. HN makes flagged posts and subthreads invisible to its average users (you need to link to the subthread), but keeps them fully searchable. And does not moderate them. As a result, it's an easy way to deposit unreviewed content on a high-reputation website, leeching of that reputation. It's got nothing to do with politics, and everything with the fact that when you allow a community to be publicly associated with content without letting the community see or moderate the content, you're damaging the community's reputation. HN should fix the bug. That's all. Everybody involved in this particular drama is entirely entitled to say whatever the heck they want, just not under the cover of being pretend-part of this community.

alt187 2y ago
But the only reason that makes you think that they belong to said right-wing forum is because they entertain this talking point, and their dislike of Marcan. It sounds quite cyclical. They dislike Marcan because they're alt-right users leeching off this community's reputation, which is obvious because they dislike Marcan. The people on the link you sent, they, uh, have a long comment history. No one is being "pretend-part" of the community here. Or am I missing some context?

anonfordays 2y ago

Marcan is Lina. It's no longer something to be questioned. https://x.com/LunaFoxgirlVT/status/1887896920732876819 https://x.com/LunaFoxgirlVT/status/1887896920732876819 > It's the worst kept secret in history that I had to keep alive, I have no interest in keeping it alive anymore. > I mean, Lina started as an april fools joke on Marcan's youtube channel https://x.com/LunaFoxgirlVT/status/1887897472527458689 https://x.com/LunaFoxgirlVT/status/1887897472527458689 > So yes, Marcan is Asahi Lina, Asahi Lina is Marcan. It's not a secret, it never really was. > Only really became one when Marcan found out he liked vtubing. And if you don't like Twitter, Luna is also saying it on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/lunafoxgirlvt.foxgirls.gay/post/3lh https://bsky.app/profile/lunafoxgirlvt.foxgirls.gay/post/3lh... > My abuser (asahi lina/marcan) is a Linux kernel contributor.