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by arvinsim 2y ago

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WheatMillington 2y ago
The combined fandom of Elon Musk and Apple is a force to be reckoned with.
WahG129ah 2y ago
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- thomassmith65 2y ago
  I half-expected that comment to end with "sorry, wrong window"
- eggsandbeer 2y ago
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jader201 2y ago
I think it boils down to the fact that intelligent, curious discussion on topics like this can’t be held on the internet. Even on HN, the comments on the previous threads, and already in this thread too, are getting downvoted and flagged (mine will soon follow, I’m sure). Politics is an internet trigger. It can draw out the worst in even the most otherwise civil people.
- wordofx 2y ago
  The left can’t understand people exist with a different view point or even fathom the concept that they could be wrong.
  - ergonaught 2y ago
    One day maybe you will recognize that generalizations are shortcuts your brain uses to avoid having to spend energy thinking.
    - wordofx 2y ago
      That’s still a lot more thinking than anyone on the left does.
      - nickthegreek 2y ago
        see comment above.
  - QuadmasterXLII 2y ago
    “it’s a different point of view” is not a panacea for making immoral behavior moral
- hyperhopper 2y ago
  > I think it boils down to the fact that intelligent, curious discussion on topics like this can’t be held on the internet. They definitely can be. Usually, moderators dont want to deal with the shit slinging that comes with them though, and many intelligent people are too sensitive to allow bigotry and hateful comments to be allowed to be hosted. I miss the old days where anything goes, and if you don't like it just close the browser. Better than censorship and sanitization.
- csomar 2y ago
  eh, we've been getting super-political when the discussions aligned with the establishment. This is tech-bros kissing the ring. We are living in the unfortunate timeline where one waits for China to save the day.
EcommerceFlow 2y ago
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- scarface_74 2y ago
  I know you are not referring to Twitter?
  - blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
    Yes Twitter doesn’t censor the way most social media does. It is far closer to free speech ideals than it was before Elon fixed it.
    - wnevets 2y ago
      https://fortune.com/2024/09/25/twitter-x-account-suspensions-triple-transparency-report-elon-musk/ https://fortune.com/2024/09/25/twitter-x-account-suspensions... > And in the first six months of this year, the social network has suspended 5.3 million accounts, compared to 1.6 million in the first half of 2022
    - aikinai 2y ago
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      - scarface_74 2y ago
        https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna185569 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna185569 https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2024/01/09/elon-musk-silencing-his-critics-as-journalists-are-suspended-by-x/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2024/01/09/elon-mus...
    - mrtesthah 2y ago
      In what world do you live in that Twitter under Musk is a free speech haven? https://www.techdirt.com/2024/01/16/free-speech-experts-realizing-just-how-big-a-free-speech-hypocrite-elon-is/ https://www.techdirt.com/2024/01/16/free-speech-experts-real... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/15/elon-musk-hypocrite-free-speech https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/15/elon-m... https://restofworld.org/2023/elon-musk-twitter-government-orders/ https://restofworld.org/2023/elon-musk-twitter-government-or...

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WheatMillington 2y ago

The combined fandom of Elon Musk and Apple is a force to be reckoned with.

WahG129ah 2y ago

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thomassmith65 2y ago
I half-expected that comment to end with "sorry, wrong window"
eggsandbeer 2y ago
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jader201 2y ago

I think it boils down to the fact that intelligent, curious discussion on topics like this can’t be held on the internet. Even on HN, the comments on the previous threads, and already in this thread too, are getting downvoted and flagged (mine will soon follow, I’m sure). Politics is an internet trigger. It can draw out the worst in even the most otherwise civil people.

wordofx 2y ago
The left can’t understand people exist with a different view point or even fathom the concept that they could be wrong.
- ergonaught 2y ago
  One day maybe you will recognize that generalizations are shortcuts your brain uses to avoid having to spend energy thinking.
  - wordofx 2y ago
    That’s still a lot more thinking than anyone on the left does.
    - nickthegreek 2y ago
      see comment above.
- QuadmasterXLII 2y ago
  “it’s a different point of view” is not a panacea for making immoral behavior moral
hyperhopper 2y ago
> I think it boils down to the fact that intelligent, curious discussion on topics like this can’t be held on the internet. They definitely can be. Usually, moderators dont want to deal with the shit slinging that comes with them though, and many intelligent people are too sensitive to allow bigotry and hateful comments to be allowed to be hosted. I miss the old days where anything goes, and if you don't like it just close the browser. Better than censorship and sanitization.
csomar 2y ago
eh, we've been getting super-political when the discussions aligned with the establishment. This is tech-bros kissing the ring. We are living in the unfortunate timeline where one waits for China to save the day.

EcommerceFlow 2y ago

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scarface_74 2y ago
I know you are not referring to Twitter?
- blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
  Yes Twitter doesn’t censor the way most social media does. It is far closer to free speech ideals than it was before Elon fixed it.
  - wnevets 2y ago
    https://fortune.com/2024/09/25/twitter-x-account-suspensions-triple-transparency-report-elon-musk/ https://fortune.com/2024/09/25/twitter-x-account-suspensions... > And in the first six months of this year, the social network has suspended 5.3 million accounts, compared to 1.6 million in the first half of 2022
  - aikinai 2y ago
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    - scarface_74 2y ago
      https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna185569 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna185569 https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2024/01/09/elon-musk-silencing-his-critics-as-journalists-are-suspended-by-x/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2024/01/09/elon-mus...
  - mrtesthah 2y ago
    In what world do you live in that Twitter under Musk is a free speech haven? https://www.techdirt.com/2024/01/16/free-speech-experts-realizing-just-how-big-a-free-speech-hypocrite-elon-is/ https://www.techdirt.com/2024/01/16/free-speech-experts-real... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/15/elon-musk-hypocrite-free-speech https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/15/elon-m... https://restofworld.org/2023/elon-musk-twitter-government-orders/ https://restofworld.org/2023/elon-musk-twitter-government-or...