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I watched one of the new hires burn 8 hours in chatGPT trying to make excel do something that took me five minutes. Not worried for anything but the economy

I watched one of the new hires burn 8 hours in chatGPT trying to make excel do something that took me five minutes. Not worried for anything but the economy and the environment.

bamboozled 2y ago
I think it's great if you know what you want it to do and you prompt appropriately. Can save quite a lot of time if you already have some experience.
tenzing 2y ago
Exactly this. In their current state, ChatGPT (and Claude, etc) are a great boost for people who already have good foundational knowledge. They'll probably speed up learning in general, but are no replacement for an in-depth understanding.
MarcelOlsz 2y ago
I saw a guy on twitter boasting about launching some micro saas with 28,000+ prompts and doing "no coding". I'd pay to see that codebase.
- gregoryl 2y ago
  Well, if they are somehow successful at raising funds, there will be some mean contracts available to un-fuck it :)
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  - ajuc 2y ago
    At some point it's better to rewrite.
    - Smeevy 2y ago
      Don't you mean "reprompt"?
lifestyleguru 2y ago
It's the same as using Google search instead of programming skills, then Stack Overflow instead of programming skills, and in the meantime there was also WYSIWYG programming.
- rsynnott 2y ago
  > and in the meantime there was also WYSIWYG programming. Oh, that one's perennial; it periodically shows up, promising to obsolete programmers, and has since the 1980s.
  - lifestyleguru 2y ago
    Then let AI arrange together the boxes and arrows? Should work.
btreecat 2y ago
While I have seen similar (engineer struggle to get claud to write some TF that could have been done in a few min) I also have experienced the opposite. I was attempting to put together some basic statistics for my oncall shift, so I downloaded the CSV from our system and used DuckDB to inspect. I had never used DuckDB before so using an LLM to help me refine my queries was great. Even with a few turds of a reply it still mostly helped save time. Knowing when to stop and try a different approach is the same underlying skill that some devs don't exercise and others do.

I watched one of the new hires burn 8 hours in chatGPT trying to make excel do something that took me five minutes. Not worried for anything but the economy and the environment.

bamboozled 2y ago

I think it's great if you know what you want it to do and you prompt appropriately. Can save quite a lot of time if you already have some experience.

tenzing 2y ago

Exactly this. In their current state, ChatGPT (and Claude, etc) are a great boost for people who already have good foundational knowledge. They'll probably speed up learning in general, but are no replacement for an in-depth understanding.

MarcelOlsz 2y ago

I saw a guy on twitter boasting about launching some micro saas with 28,000+ prompts and doing "no coding". I'd pay to see that codebase.

gregoryl 2y ago
Well, if they are somehow successful at raising funds, there will be some mean contracts available to un-fuck it :)
- deleted 2y ago
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- ajuc 2y ago
  At some point it's better to rewrite.
  - Smeevy 2y ago
    Don't you mean "reprompt"?

lifestyleguru 2y ago

It's the same as using Google search instead of programming skills, then Stack Overflow instead of programming skills, and in the meantime there was also WYSIWYG programming.

rsynnott 2y ago
> and in the meantime there was also WYSIWYG programming. Oh, that one's perennial; it periodically shows up, promising to obsolete programmers, and has since the 1980s.
- lifestyleguru 2y ago
  Then let AI arrange together the boxes and arrows? Should work.

btreecat 2y ago

While I have seen similar (engineer struggle to get claud to write some TF that could have been done in a few min) I also have experienced the opposite. I was attempting to put together some basic statistics for my oncall shift, so I downloaded the CSV from our system and used DuckDB to inspect. I had never used DuckDB before so using an LLM to help me refine my queries was great. Even with a few turds of a reply it still mostly helped save time. Knowing when to stop and try a different approach is the same underlying skill that some devs don't exercise and others do.