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"Why is Amazon doing this? It’s a feature not many people use and those who do, commit e-book piracy." What one earth is wrong with the people who write this k

"Why is Amazon doing this? It’s a feature not many people use and those who do, commit e-book piracy." What one earth is wrong with the people who write this kind of garbage?

CursedSilicon 2y ago
Why be objective when you can insert your own snarky commentary and simp for fucking Amazon of all places?
bhaney 2y ago
> What on earth is wrong with the people who write this kind of garbage? They're employees of scummy companies that also happen to exist largely to sell Amazon products. This site (goodereader) sells a lot of Kindles in their store, and you don't have to do much googling to see how former customers feel about them. Of course they're Amazon lackeys. Edit: It's been interesting to watch the votes on this comment swing up and down so much. Lots of activity but overall pretty split opinions it seems!
notatoad 2y ago
just to be clear, this does not affect the people who actually pirate ebooks, you can still download mobi files all over the internet and transfer them onto your kindle. it's only an impediment for people who legally purchase kindle ebooks that have DRM intact and want to transfer them to the device via USB. it's not targeting the ebook pirates who knows about libgen, it's just meant to annoy the people who borrow an ebook from their library and want to keep it an extra couple days by turning off their kindle's wifi. that's what they mean by "piracy".
- Macha 2y ago
  Also people that legally purchase them and want to use them with non-kindle readers and applications.
- rahimnathwani 2y ago
  you can still download mobi files all over the internet and transfer them onto your kindle Right, but where did the first copy of each of those files originate?
  - whatever1 2y ago
    Oh yeah! Hadn’t thought of this. OCR the kindle screen while flipping pages?
    - rahimnathwani 2y ago
      Probably easier to use ADB on Android to both flip and screenshot.
    - goosedragons 2y ago
      Nobody does that. Download and Transfer was used because it would give AZW3 instead of the newer KFX file format. DRM on KFX is much harder to remove, if at all. AZW3 is possible, hence why they are closing this "loophole". It's still stupid because basically any book can be pirated in about 10 minutes with a knife and a sheetfed document scanner.
- dlcarrier 2y ago
  At least with Libby, the turning-off-wifi thing works even when the book isn't sideloaded.
amazingamazing 2y ago
Why do you think something is wrong with them? The part about it not being something many use is probably true in percentage terms. The part about it being used for piracy is hard to prove. Piracy in this context would likely be giving it to others - I personally think it's unlikely.
- scblock 2y ago
  I purchase ebooks from Amazon, and I remove DRM from them immediately. I'm not pirating, I'm buying, but this asshole is saying otherwise. DRM is unacceptable. If I can't remove it I won't buy at all.
  - exe34 2y ago
    same. I've bought it. I'm reading it on my kindle, phone, Linux laptop, etc and nobody's going to stop me.
  - amazingamazing 2y ago
    It's ironic, but the child post here says: > same. I've bought it. I'm reading it on my kindle, phone, Linux laptop, etc and nobody's going to stop me. Technically piracy (not that I particularly care). Technically in the USA removing DRM is also piracy, so I guess they're right? Again, don't actually care and would do the same, but I find your response ironic. The law is pretty complicated though. I think if it's for yourself it's fair use, but 17 U.S. Code § 1201 says otherwise. I'm not a lawyer, sad.
    - the_af 2y ago
      I disagree. This is not "technically piracy". Piracy is ill-defined and so it's hard to say what is or isn't for such an informal term, but even if it weren't: removing the DRM of stuff you purchased legally, and for your own use, is not "piracy" by any reasonable use of the word. It might be illegal, but it's not piracy.
      - amazingamazing 2y ago
cogman10 2y ago
"Nobody uses this except for those that do, and those people are filthy dirty rotten thieves who are garbage." Or, you know, people who want to backup their purchased media precisely because of this sort of move.
er4hn 2y ago
But not the people that use Calibre, fta: You can continue to use Calibre to send Kindle books to your Kindle
- m463 2y ago
  But how do the kindle books purchased after feb 26 get into calibre? I think that might be the point people miss.
  - ninth_ant 2y ago
    From a different store? From a piracy site? From a friend or family member? From a different retailer? By breaking the encryption? Perhaps the other people didn't miss the point at all.
    - m463 2y ago
      just trying to clarify the nonsense point in the article: Here are some essential facts to know. - You can continue to use Calibre to send Kindle books to your Kindle sidesteps the fact that you might not be able to get your books into calibre anymore because "Download & Transfer via USB" on Feb 26 "Download" goes away, which was the typical way people got their kindle books into calibre.
  - jacekm 2y ago
    Via desktop Kindle Reader app.
42772827 2y ago
Goodereader is trash tier and aleays has been.
synicalx 2y ago
They're either brainwashed, or being paid by Amazon.
lycopodiopsida 2y ago
Guilty as charged! I've used it to de-DRM and transfer my bought ebooks to read them on my pocketbook. But, good to know that me, refusing to buy another kindle as a successor to my Kindle Voyage was the right decision. Every aspect of amazon these days is garbage experience - be it retail, books or video. Also got rid of prime years ago.

"Why is Amazon doing this? It’s a feature not many people use and those who do, commit e-book piracy." What one earth is wrong with the people who write this kind of garbage?

CursedSilicon 2y ago

Why be objective when you can insert your own snarky commentary and simp for fucking Amazon of all places?

bhaney 2y ago

> What on earth is wrong with the people who write this kind of garbage? They're employees of scummy companies that also happen to exist largely to sell Amazon products. This site (goodereader) sells a lot of Kindles in their store, and you don't have to do much googling to see how former customers feel about them. Of course they're Amazon lackeys. Edit: It's been interesting to watch the votes on this comment swing up and down so much. Lots of activity but overall pretty split opinions it seems!

notatoad 2y ago

just to be clear, this does not affect the people who actually pirate ebooks, you can still download mobi files all over the internet and transfer them onto your kindle. it's only an impediment for people who legally purchase kindle ebooks that have DRM intact and want to transfer them to the device via USB. it's not targeting the ebook pirates who knows about libgen, it's just meant to annoy the people who borrow an ebook from their library and want to keep it an extra couple days by turning off their kindle's wifi. that's what they mean by "piracy".

Macha 2y ago
Also people that legally purchase them and want to use them with non-kindle readers and applications.
rahimnathwani 2y ago
you can still download mobi files all over the internet and transfer them onto your kindle Right, but where did the first copy of each of those files originate?
- whatever1 2y ago
  Oh yeah! Hadn’t thought of this. OCR the kindle screen while flipping pages?
  - rahimnathwani 2y ago
    Probably easier to use ADB on Android to both flip and screenshot.
  - goosedragons 2y ago
    Nobody does that. Download and Transfer was used because it would give AZW3 instead of the newer KFX file format. DRM on KFX is much harder to remove, if at all. AZW3 is possible, hence why they are closing this "loophole". It's still stupid because basically any book can be pirated in about 10 minutes with a knife and a sheetfed document scanner.
dlcarrier 2y ago
At least with Libby, the turning-off-wifi thing works even when the book isn't sideloaded.

amazingamazing 2y ago

Why do you think something is wrong with them? The part about it not being something many use is probably true in percentage terms. The part about it being used for piracy is hard to prove. Piracy in this context would likely be giving it to others - I personally think it's unlikely.

scblock 2y ago
I purchase ebooks from Amazon, and I remove DRM from them immediately. I'm not pirating, I'm buying, but this asshole is saying otherwise. DRM is unacceptable. If I can't remove it I won't buy at all.
- exe34 2y ago
  same. I've bought it. I'm reading it on my kindle, phone, Linux laptop, etc and nobody's going to stop me.
- amazingamazing 2y ago
  It's ironic, but the child post here says: > same. I've bought it. I'm reading it on my kindle, phone, Linux laptop, etc and nobody's going to stop me. Technically piracy (not that I particularly care). Technically in the USA removing DRM is also piracy, so I guess they're right? Again, don't actually care and would do the same, but I find your response ironic. The law is pretty complicated though. I think if it's for yourself it's fair use, but 17 U.S. Code § 1201 says otherwise. I'm not a lawyer, sad.
  - the_af 2y ago
    I disagree. This is not "technically piracy". Piracy is ill-defined and so it's hard to say what is or isn't for such an informal term, but even if it weren't: removing the DRM of stuff you purchased legally, and for your own use, is not "piracy" by any reasonable use of the word. It might be illegal, but it's not piracy.
    - amazingamazing 2y ago

cogman10 2y ago

"Nobody uses this except for those that do, and those people are filthy dirty rotten thieves who are garbage." Or, you know, people who want to backup their purchased media precisely because of this sort of move.

er4hn 2y ago

But not the people that use Calibre, fta: You can continue to use Calibre to send Kindle books to your Kindle

m463 2y ago
But how do the kindle books purchased after feb 26 get into calibre? I think that might be the point people miss.
- ninth_ant 2y ago
  From a different store? From a piracy site? From a friend or family member? From a different retailer? By breaking the encryption? Perhaps the other people didn't miss the point at all.
  - m463 2y ago
    just trying to clarify the nonsense point in the article: Here are some essential facts to know. - You can continue to use Calibre to send Kindle books to your Kindle sidesteps the fact that you might not be able to get your books into calibre anymore because "Download & Transfer via USB" on Feb 26 "Download" goes away, which was the typical way people got their kindle books into calibre.
- jacekm 2y ago
  Via desktop Kindle Reader app.

42772827 2y ago

Goodereader is trash tier and aleays has been.

synicalx 2y ago

They're either brainwashed, or being paid by Amazon.

lycopodiopsida 2y ago

Guilty as charged! I've used it to de-DRM and transfer my bought ebooks to read them on my pocketbook. But, good to know that me, refusing to buy another kindle as a successor to my Kindle Voyage was the right decision. Every aspect of amazon these days is garbage experience - be it retail, books or video. Also got rid of prime years ago.