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It's easier to not buy an iPhone than it was trying to prevent a politician I didn't trust from getting in office. In either case, collective action is, at bes

It's easier to not buy an iPhone than it was trying to prevent a politician I didn't trust from getting in office. In either case, collective action is, at best, the best you're going to have. Do regulations not have meaning?

ta1243 2y ago
You might think you're safe because you don't carry a phone, never upload a photo, etc. You drove across the country in a car you paid cash for while bemoaning cameras that catch you speeding, in the name of "privacy". Meanwhile meta knows exactly where you are as their face recognition attached it to your shadow profile when someone took a selfie with you in the background, you were seen on a ring doorbell by amazon as you walked down the street This "individualism" and "I'm alright jack" approach is a fallacy the world can't afford. My government doesn't have a copy of my family tree or a good idea what my DNA is. Ancestry.com does.
- danielbln 2y ago
  They all do though. Do you think the government isn't tapping the genetic databases of 23andme and Ancestry? Or the bottomless data out that is Gmail. Or iCloud. Or Gmaps location data. I'd rather not decide who is the worse privacy offender, companies or governments, and best restrict both to a need-to-know basis.
  - ta1243 2y ago
    They wouldn't be able to tap those databases if those private companies didn't make them in the first place.
    - danielbln 2y ago
      Until the gag order comes in to set those databases up. We need to hold both entities, private corporations and governments, accountable.
- itishappy 2y ago
  > My government doesn't have a copy of my family tree They absolutely do, your parents were on your government issued birth certificate, and the government issues marriage certificates and official name change paperwork too. I'd be a bit surprised if they don't some idea of your DNA as well, though I'd agree not to the level of Ancestry.

ta1243 2y ago

You might think you're safe because you don't carry a phone, never upload a photo, etc. You drove across the country in a car you paid cash for while bemoaning cameras that catch you speeding, in the name of "privacy". Meanwhile meta knows exactly where you are as their face recognition attached it to your shadow profile when someone took a selfie with you in the background, you were seen on a ring doorbell by amazon as you walked down the street This "individualism" and "I'm alright jack" approach is a fallacy the world can't afford. My government doesn't have a copy of my family tree or a good idea what my DNA is. Ancestry.com does.

danielbln 2y ago
They all do though. Do you think the government isn't tapping the genetic databases of 23andme and Ancestry? Or the bottomless data out that is Gmail. Or iCloud. Or Gmaps location data. I'd rather not decide who is the worse privacy offender, companies or governments, and best restrict both to a need-to-know basis.
- ta1243 2y ago
  They wouldn't be able to tap those databases if those private companies didn't make them in the first place.
  - danielbln 2y ago
    Until the gag order comes in to set those databases up. We need to hold both entities, private corporations and governments, accountable.
itishappy 2y ago
> My government doesn't have a copy of my family tree They absolutely do, your parents were on your government issued birth certificate, and the government issues marriage certificates and official name change paperwork too. I'd be a bit surprised if they don't some idea of your DNA as well, though I'd agree not to the level of Ancestry.