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Apart from the obvious privacy issues, I'm not actually sure what putting DNA in an LLM would actually achieve. It seems optimistic to imagine that you could q

Apart from the obvious privacy issues, I'm not actually sure what putting DNA in an LLM would actually achieve. It seems optimistic to imagine that you could query this DNA data in combination with the other information to get meaningful answers.

pedrosorio 2y ago
LLM on just DNA seems to be useful: https://www.nature.com/articles/s42256-024-00872-0 https://www.nature.com/articles/s42256-024-00872-0 These models have proven to develop incredible abilities through pattern matching on massive text data, so I wouldn’t be too quick to dismiss the limits of what they could do. Having them use specialized tools would probably be more effective (e.g. have the reasoning LLM use the DNA LLM), but in the long term with scale… who knows? The bitter lesson keeps biting us every time we think we know better.
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autoexec 2y ago
Your DNA is just a rich mine of new data points about you that they can exploit and use against you. Maybe AI thinks you're more likely than most people to have medical issues and as a result companies now refuse to hire you. Maybe AI decides that your DNA makes you more susceptible to certain addictions or alcoholism and companies selling addictive products target you relentlessly as a result. Maybe your DNA makes AI think you're more prone to criminal activity and the police harass you endlessly until you either end up in prison or move away. The conclusions AI reaches don't even have to be scientifically valid, they could be nothing more than hallucinations, but that doesn't mean that it won't have impacts on your life or place limitations on your opportunities.
- gilleain 2y ago
  Oh totally agree that would be the real-world outcome of using the data. I was just thinking out loud what the theoretical benefits could be, if done 'properly' let's say. Alternatively we could just avoid doing it at all! It's a horrible idea, absolutely.
- trilobyte 2y ago
  My problem with this is that people like Larry Ellison are more likely to want to use this against other people but would excuse themselves from any consequences.
jcgrillo 2y ago
The DNA idea and the LLM idea are separate things. The DNA idea is about controlling people. The LLM idea is about hyping an insanely computationally intensive technology with tons of hype and generalized excitement but few (no?) successful commercial applications. The man sells computers. If he can convince the government it's a strategic imperative that we do the AI real good, he just sold a whole lot of it. It's Web 3.0 2.0.

pedrosorio 2y ago

LLM on just DNA seems to be useful: https://www.nature.com/articles/s42256-024-00872-0 https://www.nature.com/articles/s42256-024-00872-0 These models have proven to develop incredible abilities through pattern matching on massive text data, so I wouldn’t be too quick to dismiss the limits of what they could do. Having them use specialized tools would probably be more effective (e.g. have the reasoning LLM use the DNA LLM), but in the long term with scale… who knows? The bitter lesson keeps biting us every time we think we know better.

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autoexec 2y ago

Your DNA is just a rich mine of new data points about you that they can exploit and use against you. Maybe AI thinks you're more likely than most people to have medical issues and as a result companies now refuse to hire you. Maybe AI decides that your DNA makes you more susceptible to certain addictions or alcoholism and companies selling addictive products target you relentlessly as a result. Maybe your DNA makes AI think you're more prone to criminal activity and the police harass you endlessly until you either end up in prison or move away. The conclusions AI reaches don't even have to be scientifically valid, they could be nothing more than hallucinations, but that doesn't mean that it won't have impacts on your life or place limitations on your opportunities.

gilleain 2y ago
Oh totally agree that would be the real-world outcome of using the data. I was just thinking out loud what the theoretical benefits could be, if done 'properly' let's say. Alternatively we could just avoid doing it at all! It's a horrible idea, absolutely.
trilobyte 2y ago
My problem with this is that people like Larry Ellison are more likely to want to use this against other people but would excuse themselves from any consequences.

jcgrillo 2y ago

The DNA idea and the LLM idea are separate things. The DNA idea is about controlling people. The LLM idea is about hyping an insanely computationally intensive technology with tons of hype and generalized excitement but few (no?) successful commercial applications. The man sells computers. If he can convince the government it's a strategic imperative that we do the AI real good, he just sold a whole lot of it. It's Web 3.0 2.0.