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This part of the post is being overlooked: Then 2024 happened. Last year was incredibly tumultuous for me due to personal reasons which I won’t go into detail

by lenova 2y ago

This part of the post is being overlooked: Then 2024 happened. Last year was incredibly tumultuous for me due to personal reasons which I won’t go into detail about. Suffice it to say, I ended up traveling for most of the year, all the while having to handle various abusers and stalkers who harassed and attacked me and my family (and continue to do so). This is _not_ ok in any form, what the actual hell?

sharpshadow 2y ago
Absolutely not okay and I somehow hope it hadn’t todo with Asahi Linux.
xyzsparetimexyz 2y ago
It's hard to know what he exactly means by this. It sounds pretty bad but this guy does seem to attract and develop a fair bit of drama and this could be a bit exaggerated from the truth.
- milesrout 2y ago
  It very likely is. By "abusers" he likely means "people that are rude to him online" and by "stalkers" the same. Nobody is following him around IRL. He probably is referring mainly to the Kiwifarms people that get a kick out of documenting the downwards spiral of someone like Hector.
  - 0dayz 2y ago
    No need to speculate until you know for sure. Unless he got an extensive posting online on social media platforms I doubt he would garner much attention.
  - antidumbass 2y ago
    For clarity, it isn't that. He's referring to a single specific person who engaged in stalking and personally harassing behavior unrelated to the projects. The receipts are all over, you can find them if you insist.
epcoa 2y ago
It seems like mostly personal problems, and if this is not going into detail, whoo I don't know what detail would be: https://vt.social/@lina/112887550181123672 https://vt.social/@lina/112887550181123672 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W2Vvwg0rwSVb5r4TQ_NmAF8SxIXAHPGEZnELgwS36yE/edit?tab=t.0 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W2Vvwg0rwSVb5r4TQ_NmAF8S... They pretty much straight up confirm the identity of Asahi Lina, so enough with the gaslighting that merely mentioning this (and having a totally reasonable discussion on contributor persona policies and sockpuppeting, which is what this is) is somehow unethical doxxing.
- flykespice 2y ago
  I mean it was pretty obvious from the get-go when Marcan lent his Twitter account to Asahi Lina to promote their launch day. Who entrusts their account credentials to a stranger?
- nialv7 2y ago
  i have to admit i tend to get drawn in by dramas like this, it is a fault of mine, but it is what it is. so anyway, i dug into the other party involved in this, i.e. the accused, and it looks like there is more to this story than what Lina lets on in her Google Doc linked here, perhaps there is another side. i am not going to go into details here, but if you are interested, it's not difficult to find her on twitter or bluesky. (and if you do choose to do so, please don't bother her, i don't want to cause her any harm by mentioning her here).
- ActorNightly 2y ago
  This is @lina, not the same guy in the post. Did I miss something?
  - pseudo0 2y ago
    Asahi Lina is almost certainly marcan's vtuber persona. This has been discussed for quite a long time on HN, reddit, etc, especially after he started interacting with his own sockpuppet on GitHub. Dug up my old comment on the issue here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36972907 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36972907 > The project itself is popular, but HN allows people to talk about the fairly compelling circumstantial evidence that Asahi Lina is marcan's alter ego. Per previous discussion, they have /home/marcan and /home/lina on the same box [0], have the same hostname [1], and have similar accents and speaking patterns [2]. Marcan is free to do this, but it's completely bizarre behavior acted out in public which is now impacting the actual Asahi project. Doing v-tubing under a pseudonym is one thing, but maintaining a sockpuppet contributor on a major open source project and pretending to interact with it is a giant red flag. [0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35242010 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35242010 [1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35238601 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35238601 [2] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35238601 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35238601
ThatGuyRaion 2y ago
It's not okay but he's giving them ammunition by mentioning them and complaining about them. It proves that it's working. When I started getting harassed in 2022 over an ill advised post on a site, the only thing that stopped it was to sandbag everything and rethink how I interacted on the internet.
- lenova 2y ago
  That's victim blaming, even when it's in reference to yourself.
  - ThatGuyRaion 2y ago
    I'm not blaming the victims for anything. But I am absolutely saying that you need to modify your behavior in order to get what you want oftentimes. Suggesting that people make even the smallest changes to their lives in 2025 is apparently victim blaming.
    - lenova 2y ago
      I should have been clearer, I'm specifically replying to this statement: "... he's giving them ammunition by mentioning them and complaining about them. It proves that it's working." Are we supposed to not speak publicly about being harassed? I feel like a culture of silence only allows bullying to perpetuate, and puts the onus on the victim to change their behaviour, and not the harasser's.
      - ajb 2y ago
        In general, yes. But in the case of obsessive stalkers, I've heard that the standard advice is to "go radio silence", because their pattern if you ever break down and reply is to think "now I know how many times I need to harass to get a reply" and increase their efforts to get through that count faster. So it ends up escalating exponentially. Of course, ideally some authority should stop the harasser. But you probably don't want to wait until it gets severe enough for that to happen.
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timeon 2y ago
If there are such stalkers they are probably ITT as well.
lemper 2y ago
pretty sure he's one of kiwifarm's lolcows. so he's quite not ok, i'd imagine.

by lenova 2y ago

sharpshadow 2y ago

Absolutely not okay and I somehow hope it hadn’t todo with Asahi Linux.

xyzsparetimexyz 2y ago

It's hard to know what he exactly means by this. It sounds pretty bad but this guy does seem to attract and develop a fair bit of drama and this could be a bit exaggerated from the truth.

milesrout 2y ago
It very likely is. By "abusers" he likely means "people that are rude to him online" and by "stalkers" the same. Nobody is following him around IRL. He probably is referring mainly to the Kiwifarms people that get a kick out of documenting the downwards spiral of someone like Hector.
- 0dayz 2y ago
  No need to speculate until you know for sure. Unless he got an extensive posting online on social media platforms I doubt he would garner much attention.
- antidumbass 2y ago
  For clarity, it isn't that. He's referring to a single specific person who engaged in stalking and personally harassing behavior unrelated to the projects. The receipts are all over, you can find them if you insist.

epcoa 2y ago

It seems like mostly personal problems, and if this is not going into detail, whoo I don't know what detail would be: https://vt.social/@lina/112887550181123672 https://vt.social/@lina/112887550181123672 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W2Vvwg0rwSVb5r4TQ_NmAF8SxIXAHPGEZnELgwS36yE/edit?tab=t.0 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W2Vvwg0rwSVb5r4TQ_NmAF8S... They pretty much straight up confirm the identity of Asahi Lina, so enough with the gaslighting that merely mentioning this (and having a totally reasonable discussion on contributor persona policies and sockpuppeting, which is what this is) is somehow unethical doxxing.

flykespice 2y ago
I mean it was pretty obvious from the get-go when Marcan lent his Twitter account to Asahi Lina to promote their launch day. Who entrusts their account credentials to a stranger?
nialv7 2y ago
i have to admit i tend to get drawn in by dramas like this, it is a fault of mine, but it is what it is. so anyway, i dug into the other party involved in this, i.e. the accused, and it looks like there is more to this story than what Lina lets on in her Google Doc linked here, perhaps there is another side. i am not going to go into details here, but if you are interested, it's not difficult to find her on twitter or bluesky. (and if you do choose to do so, please don't bother her, i don't want to cause her any harm by mentioning her here).
ActorNightly 2y ago
This is @lina, not the same guy in the post. Did I miss something?
- pseudo0 2y ago
  Asahi Lina is almost certainly marcan's vtuber persona. This has been discussed for quite a long time on HN, reddit, etc, especially after he started interacting with his own sockpuppet on GitHub. Dug up my old comment on the issue here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36972907 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36972907 > The project itself is popular, but HN allows people to talk about the fairly compelling circumstantial evidence that Asahi Lina is marcan's alter ego. Per previous discussion, they have /home/marcan and /home/lina on the same box [0], have the same hostname [1], and have similar accents and speaking patterns [2]. Marcan is free to do this, but it's completely bizarre behavior acted out in public which is now impacting the actual Asahi project. Doing v-tubing under a pseudonym is one thing, but maintaining a sockpuppet contributor on a major open source project and pretending to interact with it is a giant red flag. [0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35242010 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35242010 [1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35238601 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35238601 [2] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35238601 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35238601

ThatGuyRaion 2y ago

It's not okay but he's giving them ammunition by mentioning them and complaining about them. It proves that it's working. When I started getting harassed in 2022 over an ill advised post on a site, the only thing that stopped it was to sandbag everything and rethink how I interacted on the internet.

lenova 2y ago
That's victim blaming, even when it's in reference to yourself.
- ThatGuyRaion 2y ago
  I'm not blaming the victims for anything. But I am absolutely saying that you need to modify your behavior in order to get what you want oftentimes. Suggesting that people make even the smallest changes to their lives in 2025 is apparently victim blaming.
  - lenova 2y ago
    I should have been clearer, I'm specifically replying to this statement: "... he's giving them ammunition by mentioning them and complaining about them. It proves that it's working." Are we supposed to not speak publicly about being harassed? I feel like a culture of silence only allows bullying to perpetuate, and puts the onus on the victim to change their behaviour, and not the harasser's.
    - ajb 2y ago
      In general, yes. But in the case of obsessive stalkers, I've heard that the standard advice is to "go radio silence", because their pattern if you ever break down and reply is to think "now I know how many times I need to harass to get a reply" and increase their efforts to get through that count faster. So it ends up escalating exponentially. Of course, ideally some authority should stop the harasser. But you probably don't want to wait until it gets severe enough for that to happen.
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timeon 2y ago

If there are such stalkers they are probably ITT as well.

lemper 2y ago

pretty sure he's one of kiwifarm's lolcows. so he's quite not ok, i'd imagine.