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I would like to take this moment to point out that Obama created the framework that trump is using. Here is a quote from NPR: "The USDS launched in 2014 by th

I would like to take this moment to point out that Obama created the framework that trump is using. Here is a quote from NPR: "The USDS launched in 2014 by the Obama administration in the aftermath of the botched rollout of HeathCare.gov as an office to boost the digital capabilities of the federal government. It has operated like a digital strike team of sorts, recruiting private sector experts in design and technology to work collaboratively with federal agencies on projects that make public-facing parts of the government more efficient, modern and user-friendly." Link: https://www.npr.org/2025/01/29/nx-s1-5270893/doge-united-states-digital-service-elon-musk-usds-trump-white-house-eop-omb https://www.npr.org/2025/01/29/nx-s1-5270893/doge-united-sta...

lores 2y ago
Yep. Sulla didn't come out of nowhere, marching on Rome was only possible because the Senate had been corrupt for a long time, and institutions had already started decaying - but it was the arson that put an end to any hope of restoring the house.
- mikece 2y ago
  I wish I could up-vote that one 11 times: we don't get enough Sulla references in the world these days!
dmix 2y ago
There's also multiple existing federal agencies that aggregate data across multiple federal agencies (OBM oversees federal data collecting https://strategy.data.gov/overview/ https://strategy.data.gov/overview/, GSA also centralizes federal datasets, OPM collects gov wide workforce data, etc). Aggregating gov spending data in a similar way is not a totally alien idea or even a new one... even if the concerns on data security and transparency are valid.
ano-ther 2y ago
The Obama initiative did not override security protocols though (what the article describes). It was basically installing modern IT management for the government.
gmoore 2y ago
oh please.....how on earth can you assign any blame to OBAMA..
- soco 2y ago
  It all started with Alan Turing, and let's not forget to put some blame on Charles Babbage and even Ada Lovelace who started it all. After all, anything deflecting blame from the beloved tech leader and his beloved leader is more than welcome.
  - richbell 2y ago
    "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
- intended 2y ago
  Remember, the Dems are always wrong. See, they said the FRAMEWORK was created by Obama. In these cases, just jump to the end, and if possible go a step further. The Dems couldn't be corrupt efficiently! They created this framework, and didn't use it to drain the swamp?? See, the dems are always wrong. (Underlying any such point is an emotional fear, that the country was brought to the bring by liberals and democrats. This is what is actually triggering the nation wide fight or flight response. Address this)
  - normalaccess 2y ago
    Can you clarify? I'm not completely understanding your position.
    - intended 2y ago
      I'm saying the Dems were idiots. As you pointed out, they made this Framework, They had it since the Obama era! And they never used it like Trump/Musk are. What fools! IF they had, who knows where we might be today.
craftsman 2y ago
The question is not whether it is good to have such a digital strike team. The questions include: is the strike team in question being transparent, is it violating any laws, is it protecting data in the way the law requires, is the team composed of people who have been vetted at a level corresponding to the access they've been granted, are any of them potentially compromised or plausibly so, does anyone on the team have conflicts of interest, is there oversight and auditability of their actions? The reason, I think, these are good questions is simply that these are things we should demand of our public servants, regardless of political affiliation.
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lores 2y ago

Yep. Sulla didn't come out of nowhere, marching on Rome was only possible because the Senate had been corrupt for a long time, and institutions had already started decaying - but it was the arson that put an end to any hope of restoring the house.

mikece 2y ago
I wish I could up-vote that one 11 times: we don't get enough Sulla references in the world these days!

dmix 2y ago

There's also multiple existing federal agencies that aggregate data across multiple federal agencies (OBM oversees federal data collecting https://strategy.data.gov/overview/ https://strategy.data.gov/overview/, GSA also centralizes federal datasets, OPM collects gov wide workforce data, etc). Aggregating gov spending data in a similar way is not a totally alien idea or even a new one... even if the concerns on data security and transparency are valid.

ano-ther 2y ago

The Obama initiative did not override security protocols though (what the article describes). It was basically installing modern IT management for the government.

gmoore 2y ago

oh please.....how on earth can you assign any blame to OBAMA..

soco 2y ago
It all started with Alan Turing, and let's not forget to put some blame on Charles Babbage and even Ada Lovelace who started it all. After all, anything deflecting blame from the beloved tech leader and his beloved leader is more than welcome.
- richbell 2y ago
  "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
intended 2y ago
Remember, the Dems are always wrong. See, they said the FRAMEWORK was created by Obama. In these cases, just jump to the end, and if possible go a step further. The Dems couldn't be corrupt efficiently! They created this framework, and didn't use it to drain the swamp?? See, the dems are always wrong. (Underlying any such point is an emotional fear, that the country was brought to the bring by liberals and democrats. This is what is actually triggering the nation wide fight or flight response. Address this)
- normalaccess 2y ago
  Can you clarify? I'm not completely understanding your position.
  - intended 2y ago
    I'm saying the Dems were idiots. As you pointed out, they made this Framework, They had it since the Obama era! And they never used it like Trump/Musk are. What fools! IF they had, who knows where we might be today.

craftsman 2y ago

The question is not whether it is good to have such a digital strike team. The questions include: is the strike team in question being transparent, is it violating any laws, is it protecting data in the way the law requires, is the team composed of people who have been vetted at a level corresponding to the access they've been granted, are any of them potentially compromised or plausibly so, does anyone on the team have conflicts of interest, is there oversight and auditability of their actions? The reason, I think, these are good questions is simply that these are things we should demand of our public servants, regardless of political affiliation.

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