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Corporations are the unoffical 4th branch of government. If the stock market tanks they’ll be gone like that snaps fingers. The campaign donations and lobbyist

Corporations are the unoffical 4th branch of government. If the stock market tanks they’ll be gone like that snaps fingers. The campaign donations and lobbyist spigot will turn off for these politicians, panic and leadership will change. I know Citizens United allows for dark money to flow in from anywhere to prop up their campaigns indefinitely but not enough to offset a tanked stock market due to lack of trust in the US dollar and markets.

EnergyAmy 2y ago
We need separation of corporation and state enshrined in the Constitution, if it's not too late.
IAmGraydon 2y ago
First of all, I doubt it. Trump will likely blame economic damage on everyone else (namely, the Fed), and his sycophants will eat it up. Second, even if they are ejected, the damage will already be done.
- bdangubic 2y ago
  we have a proof that this is not right - see 2018 and 2020. it is somewhat “easy” to run against an incumbent, especially one as fradulent as Biden (not to mention Kamala…) but when you are an incumbent THE BUCK STOP with you. while portion of the US electorate is dumb beyond repair they alone are not enough to win an election. if shit isn’t right come 2026 and 2028 the blame-everyone-else-nothing-is-ever-my-fault Donald will suffer the ass kicking much worse than 2018 and especially 2020 when he got demolished by a senile corrupt lifelong politician grandpa Joe
  - IAmGraydon 2y ago
    2028? He can't run again, so I don't think he much cares.
    - bdangubic 2y ago
      he may not, everyone else around him sure does … A LOT…
      - johnnyanmac 2y ago
        sad part of many people's reasoning in America: "I got mine, good luck!". And these people always seem to rise to power over the honest leaders performing their duties as a public servant.
    - esseph 2y ago
      Hmmmm https://www.newsweek.com/trump-third-term-constitutional-amendment-andy-ogles-2025020 https://www.newsweek.com/trump-third-term-constitutional-ame... https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5136390-trump-third-term-congressional-bar/ https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5136390-trump-third-te...
      - bdangubic 2y ago
        he’d run against Barack or Bill which would be the entertainment we all want and need :)
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  The feds? The ones he quickly fired and rehired in his image? The feds? Sad part is people will forget about that too, even though they are currently cheering on "government efficiency".
bookaway 2y ago
This is the correct answer. Trump won because of the current economy. Biden's margin over Trump in 2020 was double Trump's margin over Kamala. Democrats did better than expected in 2022 despite Republicans running with the same DEI garbage. What's baffling is Trump seems to be fumbling the autocrat's handbook at first glance. There are existing autocrats still around that wrote the book on this. Purging the administrative state requires multi-term government domination. First, you're supposed get the economy or quality of life on track ASAP so you can cement your (or you successor's) seat at the top. Then you use the power the people voluntarily give you over multiple terms to dismantle any checks on your power while lining the pockets and minds of your base. After that, even if the economy tanks you've boiled the frog of resistance in such a way that no one can dethrone you. And then you start designing the opposition in such a way so that there's semblance of "political freedom" you can point to when people start whining about it. Trump seems to be going about it in reverse. First feeding his base instead of focusing on the economy -- which is a higher risk strategy comparatively. But it hasn't even been a month yet so there is still time for him to start following the handbook properly.

EnergyAmy 2y ago

We need separation of corporation and state enshrined in the Constitution, if it's not too late.

IAmGraydon 2y ago

First of all, I doubt it. Trump will likely blame economic damage on everyone else (namely, the Fed), and his sycophants will eat it up. Second, even if they are ejected, the damage will already be done.

bdangubic 2y ago
we have a proof that this is not right - see 2018 and 2020. it is somewhat “easy” to run against an incumbent, especially one as fradulent as Biden (not to mention Kamala…) but when you are an incumbent THE BUCK STOP with you. while portion of the US electorate is dumb beyond repair they alone are not enough to win an election. if shit isn’t right come 2026 and 2028 the blame-everyone-else-nothing-is-ever-my-fault Donald will suffer the ass kicking much worse than 2018 and especially 2020 when he got demolished by a senile corrupt lifelong politician grandpa Joe
- IAmGraydon 2y ago
  2028? He can't run again, so I don't think he much cares.
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    he may not, everyone else around him sure does … A LOT…
    - johnnyanmac 2y ago
      sad part of many people's reasoning in America: "I got mine, good luck!". And these people always seem to rise to power over the honest leaders performing their duties as a public servant.
  - esseph 2y ago
    Hmmmm https://www.newsweek.com/trump-third-term-constitutional-amendment-andy-ogles-2025020 https://www.newsweek.com/trump-third-term-constitutional-ame... https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5136390-trump-third-term-congressional-bar/ https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5136390-trump-third-te...
    - bdangubic 2y ago
      he’d run against Barack or Bill which would be the entertainment we all want and need :)
johnnyanmac 2y ago
The feds? The ones he quickly fired and rehired in his image? The feds? Sad part is people will forget about that too, even though they are currently cheering on "government efficiency".

bookaway 2y ago

This is the correct answer. Trump won because of the current economy. Biden's margin over Trump in 2020 was double Trump's margin over Kamala. Democrats did better than expected in 2022 despite Republicans running with the same DEI garbage. What's baffling is Trump seems to be fumbling the autocrat's handbook at first glance. There are existing autocrats still around that wrote the book on this. Purging the administrative state requires multi-term government domination. First, you're supposed get the economy or quality of life on track ASAP so you can cement your (or you successor's) seat at the top. Then you use the power the people voluntarily give you over multiple terms to dismantle any checks on your power while lining the pockets and minds of your base. After that, even if the economy tanks you've boiled the frog of resistance in such a way that no one can dethrone you. And then you start designing the opposition in such a way so that there's semblance of "political freedom" you can point to when people start whining about it. Trump seems to be going about it in reverse. First feeding his base instead of focusing on the economy -- which is a higher risk strategy comparatively. But it hasn't even been a month yet so there is still time for him to start following the handbook properly.