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I say this as a UKian with a constitutional monarch as head of state: These actions suggest that today the United States seems to have a de facto King with far
by PaulRobinson 2y ago
I say this as a UKian with a constitutional monarch as head of state:
These actions suggest that today the United States seems to have a de facto King with far greater powers than even those held by George III at the time the founders decided that America did not need a King.
They might not be called that, but they have the ability to exert behaviours akin to an English monarch not seen much since Henry VIII. Arguably, we're heading into Magna Carta territory.
The checks and balances are about to get a big test. I hope they work, and I'm proven wrong.
- SketchySeaBeast 2y agoWe're watching the checks and balances fail in real time. By the time the first court order comes through the DOGE boys are already doing something else somewhere else. The legal system can't create injunctions as fast as Trump can sign things. It's proving impossible for a legitimate system to keep up with the wanton pillaging.
- insane_dreamer 2y agoAlso courts can't act until someone sues for "harm" which they themselves suffered. That takes a long time, and by then, the damage is very difficult, or maybe impossible, to undo.
- SketchySeaBeast 2y agoYup. Hopefully they have good backups, but once money has been shuffled around is it possible to put it back? And not just in the abstract - this is FEMA we're talking about - lives are going to be lost.
- yoyonamite 2y agoI think it might actually be worse. I don't think the judiciary can enforce any of their court orders.
- atomicnumber3 2y agoThe checks and balances assumed the entire country didn't vote the exact same people into majorities in all 3 branches
- duxup 2y agoSCOTUS did their part in declaring the POTUS effectively more equal than everyone else.
- pb7 2y ago[flagged]
- Ekaros 2y agoPlurality is the correct term. But this is exactly how representative democracy works. The coalition with most representatives gets to enact policies and decide executive decisions.
- croes 2y agoSource? Because Trump wasn't voted by the majority of people.
- quickslowdown 2y agoObjectively untrue. Voting irregularities aside, far more people sat the election out entirely, and of those who voted, there was a vanishingly small lead Trump & co had. The majority of the country is disengaged & apathetic. That's worse than a majority "wanting this," in my personal opinion, but the majority of the country did not vote for this, they just didn't vote at all.
- soco 2y agoWhich means, the way others argument here (and are downvoted for it) the majority of the country is not particularly bothered by what is going on. No, they didn't approve of this, but also didn't disapprove. So why keeping them aside? Their conscious choice of "let whoever win" has brought the world where it is now just as the vote pro-Trump did, so if it walks and quacks like a Trump helper...
- beardyw 2y agoIt is way worse than than that. If it all falls apart, the worst for Trump is to lose an election and retire to Florida. He has no real stake in any of this. The king is the king and the only way out is abdication, passing the problem to his own family. I am so very happy we have a monarchy. I used to be against it, but the fact that no one person can wreak this kind of havoc is fantastic. And of course the king has really very little power. I've turned into a monarchist (thanks to Trump)!
- Jtsummers 2y ago> If it all falls apart, the worst for Trump is to lose an election and retire to Florida. He doesn't have another election to lose. He gets 4 years (less a few weeks now) and then gets to retire from being POTUS. There are few consequences for him this term. For the Republicans, on the other hand, if DOGE and their trade wars and other things fail, they could be fucked for a decade or more trying to rebrand themselves.
- AlecSchueler 2y agoYou're assuming there will be an election in four years which is contrary to his campaign promises.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> If it all falls apart, the worst for Trump is to lose an election and retire to Florida Given his revocation of security clearances for Biden, depending on what happens, the stakes may be higher.
- lupusreal 2y agoElected officials trying to do what they told voters they would do is literally the textbook definition of monarchy.
- DamnInteresting 2y ago> Elected officials trying to do what they told voters they would do is literally the textbook definition of monarchy. I expect that you intended to say "textbook definition of democracy", but the Freudian slip is quite something.
- lupusreal 2y agoNo no, its monarchism. Doing what his supporters voted for makes Trump a king.
- mostlysimilar 2y agoYou don't get to vote to break laws. You can vote to change or remove laws, but that is not what is happening here.
- Freedom2 2y agoThat is not what many voted for. I personally know a few who voted with glee because Trump is a loose cannon and follows no decorum.
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- lupusreal 2y agoYou don't think people should be able to vote to break laws, but objectively, people can vote for literally any reason they please. There are no laws regulating how voters choose to vote, nor could there be. I never voted for Trump, but I did vote for my state to defy federal cannabis laws. Guess what, my vote to shit on federal laws was legal.