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> My understanding is that whether intentional or not, Google has done just about everything possible to make Chrome easier to fingerprint and track. Can you p

> My understanding is that whether intentional or not, Google has done just about everything possible to make Chrome easier to fingerprint and track. Can you provide any evidence about this in incognito mode though, specifically? I'm not aware of a single thing Google has done to make incognito mode tracking easier. People aren't doing most of their browsing in incognito, so it's not going to be something Google cares much about tracking you in. Or to be more blunt -- your porn preferences aren't a valuable signal to know what clothing or car ads to show you.

everdrive 2y ago
There’s an entire class of browser fingerprinting methods which does not rely on cookies or IP addresses whatsoever; this would be hashes of various browser functions such as webrtc, webgl, as well as other information provided by the client. These technologies are increasingly relied on because privacy efforts have chipped away at how useful cookie or IP-based tracking can be. Google’s efforts to “improve privacy” when it comes to cookies or IP addresses benefit Google directly; the other tracking methods, which are built into Chrome and enabled by default slowly become the only viable method for tracking, and blocking cookie or IP address information becomes less and less relevant with regard to privacy.
- crazygringo 2y ago
  Defeating fingerprinting is a really hard problem to solve. So hard that literally nobody has solved it, because exposing all those capabilities are necessary for a lot of sites and webapps to function. You say that hiding IP addresses somehow benefits Google -- all I see is them doing something they can do that consumers want. It's not benefiting Google strategically in some way. My point is, I don't see how anyone can possibly complain about this effort from a privacy point of view. Sure it's not solving fingerprinting, but nobody knows how to do that.

everdrive 2y ago

There’s an entire class of browser fingerprinting methods which does not rely on cookies or IP addresses whatsoever; this would be hashes of various browser functions such as webrtc, webgl, as well as other information provided by the client. These technologies are increasingly relied on because privacy efforts have chipped away at how useful cookie or IP-based tracking can be. Google’s efforts to “improve privacy” when it comes to cookies or IP addresses benefit Google directly; the other tracking methods, which are built into Chrome and enabled by default slowly become the only viable method for tracking, and blocking cookie or IP address information becomes less and less relevant with regard to privacy.

crazygringo 2y ago
Defeating fingerprinting is a really hard problem to solve. So hard that literally nobody has solved it, because exposing all those capabilities are necessary for a lot of sites and webapps to function. You say that hiding IP addresses somehow benefits Google -- all I see is them doing something they can do that consumers want. It's not benefiting Google strategically in some way. My point is, I don't see how anyone can possibly complain about this effort from a privacy point of view. Sure it's not solving fingerprinting, but nobody knows how to do that.