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> and I can just use vscode remote ssh or mutagen to live edit my websites What is old is new again :) Back when I started development, we did this via git rem

by diggan 2y ago

> and I can just use vscode remote ssh or mutagen to live edit my websites What is old is new again :) Back when I started development, we did this via git remotes, and some projects even did what you created and created environments mapped from git remotes to apps running with subdomains (like Dokku is probably the first/most memorable FOSS service for this back in the day). And before that, I'm sure people were doing the same thing with Java WARs or similar, and before that, something else but similar.

pomdtr 2y ago
Yeah dokku is an inspiration! The main difference is that smallweb use deno instead of docker for sandboxing apps, and leverages url imports (which can be used to distribute complex apps like VS Code): ``` import { VSCode } from "jsr:@smallweb/vscode@0.1.7" const vscode = new VSCode({ rootDir: Deno.env.get("SMALLWEB_DIR") }); export default vscode; ``` You can play with a live instance of smallweb at https://demo.smallweb.live https://demo.smallweb.live
- diggan 2y ago
  > The main difference is that smallweb use deno instead of docker for sandboxing apps Yeah, a single-runtime (smallweb) instead of any language (dokku) + I'd probably say the avoidance of using git for the delivery would be the two biggest differences I can glance.
  - pomdtr 2y ago
    Yeah, I see smallweb as a playground. I want to "develop in prod", not rely on successives git pushes to see changes. If I need semantic releases, I publish the dev version as a package on jsr, and I then import it from the "prod" app. I still uses github as way to store my apps though, you can find them at https://github.smallweb.run https://github.smallweb.run
- yencabulator 2y ago
  By "VSCode" here you mean something like a HTTP API for file read/write[0] that can be used from VSCode, I think? VSCode also can be made into a web app[1], but I don't see that happening here. [0]: https://github.com/pomdtr/smallweb-vscode/blob/main/extension/src/openapi.ts https://github.com/pomdtr/smallweb-vscode/blob/main/extensio... [1]: https://github.com/gitpod-io/openvscode-server https://github.com/gitpod-io/openvscode-server https://github.com/coder/code-server https://github.com/coder/code-server etc
  - pomdtr 2y ago
    By vscode I mean vscode-web + an fsprovider extension. You can play with it at https://vscode.demo.smallweb.live https://vscode.demo.smallweb.live (the code is located in the `vscode` folder)

by diggan 2y ago

pomdtr 2y ago

Yeah dokku is an inspiration! The main difference is that smallweb use deno instead of docker for sandboxing apps, and leverages url imports (which can be used to distribute complex apps like VS Code): ``` import { VSCode } from "jsr:@smallweb/vscode@0.1.7" const vscode = new VSCode({ rootDir: Deno.env.get("SMALLWEB_DIR") }); export default vscode; ``` You can play with a live instance of smallweb at https://demo.smallweb.live https://demo.smallweb.live

diggan 2y ago
> The main difference is that smallweb use deno instead of docker for sandboxing apps Yeah, a single-runtime (smallweb) instead of any language (dokku) + I'd probably say the avoidance of using git for the delivery would be the two biggest differences I can glance.
- pomdtr 2y ago
  Yeah, I see smallweb as a playground. I want to "develop in prod", not rely on successives git pushes to see changes. If I need semantic releases, I publish the dev version as a package on jsr, and I then import it from the "prod" app. I still uses github as way to store my apps though, you can find them at https://github.smallweb.run https://github.smallweb.run
yencabulator 2y ago
By "VSCode" here you mean something like a HTTP API for file read/write[0] that can be used from VSCode, I think? VSCode also can be made into a web app[1], but I don't see that happening here. [0]: https://github.com/pomdtr/smallweb-vscode/blob/main/extension/src/openapi.ts https://github.com/pomdtr/smallweb-vscode/blob/main/extensio... [1]: https://github.com/gitpod-io/openvscode-server https://github.com/gitpod-io/openvscode-server https://github.com/coder/code-server https://github.com/coder/code-server etc
- pomdtr 2y ago
  By vscode I mean vscode-web + an fsprovider extension. You can play with it at https://vscode.demo.smallweb.live https://vscode.demo.smallweb.live (the code is located in the `vscode` folder)