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EU criticises Trump's negotiation tactics in Ukraine peace talks
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- oldpersonintx 2y agoUkraine is an independent nation if the EU wants to bankroll and arm Ukraine, and Ukraine wants to go on fighting, then by all means proceed the outcome will be the same, just with more death and destruction look at maps - Ukraine is not winning Russia is not winning either but they also aren't losing
- gus_massa 2y agoStalin killed 4 millions Ukrainians. They are still angry and worried for that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
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- InDubioProRubio 2y agoThat tells you alot of how bad russia really is- if the nazis look like liberators compared to that
- drysine 2y ago>if the nazis look like liberators compared to that I have no doubt that Nazis looked like liberators to the people who ethnically cleansed Jews[0][1] and Poles[2]. Fast forward to the 21st century and we see major avenues in Kiev renamed to honor Nazi collaborators. It's quite telling that the avenue that is now named after Shukhevych[3] used to honor Nikolai Vatutin[4][5], Soviet general who fought Nazis on the territory of Ukraine. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamianets-Podilskyi_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamianets-Podilskyi_massacre [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lviv_pogroms_(1941) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lviv_pogroms_(1941) [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Shukhevych https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Shukhevych [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Vatutin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Vatutin [5] https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Проспект_Романа_Шухевича#Історія https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Проспект_Романа_Шухевича#Істор...
- InDubioProRubio 2y agoRussias conquered landmass is surrounded by suppressed ethnicities with an axe to grind. You do not get to have a moment of weakness in that region. You have a moment of weakness and then the aserbeidschanis, the turks, the chechyans and the chinese jump you and turn the yalu river red. Russias benefit was the tech transfer from europe to always stay ahead of the competition. They can not have a peaceful europe.
- lawn 2y agoRussia's economy is doing very badly and with time they'll lose as long as west continues to support Ukraine.
- tmnvdb 2y agoI understand the criticism, Trump has essentially given away some core issues before negotiation starts, usually not what you want to do. However, a more favorable interpretation is that all knew these things were not really on the table, and it might help to build trust with Putin. My feeling is that it is hard to tell how this will play out for now..
- InDubioProRubio 2y agoIts also blatantly obvious, that he will roll over to the demands of authoritarians that are willing to scratch his weak ego. He is basically like Biden and Obama unable to stand up to any bully- a kingdom for a true hawk.
- tmnvdb 2y agoThat is not obvious to me. Despite the many flaws I see in Trump, rolling over does not seem to be his first instinct. And European leaders surely are not above playing his ego either.
- GJim 2y ago> rolling over does not seem to be his first instinct He will if you scratch his ego, especially for actions which benefit him personally (rather than actions that benefit the people.... that is to say the people of Ukraine and the free world).
- tmnvdb 2y agoCan you give an example of when that happened?
- casenmgreen 2y agoIs surrender a tactic?