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It's too late for anyone but congressional Republicans to step up and impeach him and remove him from office. I wouldn't hold my breath. Buckle up.
by rjbwork 2y ago
It's too late for anyone but congressional Republicans to step up and impeach him and remove him from office.
I wouldn't hold my breath. Buckle up.
- mdhb 2y agoI would politely suggest that history is absolutely filled with examples of others taking action outside of government in situations like this to prevent a descent into authoritarianism and that people might want to learn from them rather than relying on magical thinking.
- pesus 2y agoNot just that, it's the foundation of the entire US.
- timeon 2y agoThat was before cars. People in US are now domesticated in isolated nodes.
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- rjbwork 2y agoMy point is that there's no legitimate solution outside of what I've stated. Either guardrails like courts and some level of bureaucracy will hold and they'll spend 4 years thrashing against those guardrails, still doing a ton of damage in the mean time, or they'll simply enact their will a la Jackson's challenge to the courts and we'll have a very different government and country at the end of those 4 years. Nothing I said relies on magical thinking. I personally don't think there's any help coming. This administration has a will to power and are going to exercise it. They want to dismantle the government and so they're going to do it. Obviously someone can always take illegal or unprecedented action to deal with the situation, but not mentioning that fact doesn't mean someone is engaging in magical thinking.
- timeon 2y agoIs general strike not legitimate?
- rjbwork 2y agoSure, but that's not going to happen. Americans are extremely divided culturally and we are atomized and alienated socially and economically. There is no widespread class consciousness and until the comfortable middle class starts missing meals or seeing their friends and families being disappeared in the middle of the night, nothing of the sort is going to develop.
- creato 2y agoHow do you see what is going on now as a class issue? There is no clear class division between Trump's supporters and opposition. If anything it's the opposite of what you seem to be thinking. Trying to frame it in those terms is failing right out of the gate.
- anon7000 2y agoAbolishing consumer protections, going all-in on late stage capitalism, and putting the world’s richest people in charge of dismantling the government is absolutely related to class. If people wanted to rise up and actually deal with the establishment like so many want, that involves dealing with career politicians (through term limits and getting money out of politics) and especially dealing with big businesses and the ultra wealthy. (By getting much stronger personal rights, from consumer protection to labor rights to privacy rights to health rights.) Many of these should be non-controversial to the average person, if we had some level of class consciousness that helped people realize that our real problems are not cultural divides. The main point, though, is that many Americans are pretty comfortable, and mostly not interested in direct, confrontational action. That only comes when things get very personal.
- wickedsight 2y agoMy gut says that won't do much. Through (media) manipulation, this has buried itself into American culture. Trump is just the face of something that runs much, much deeper into all levels of US politics and society and can't be stopped by 'simple' acts of civil disobedience. Since big companies like FAANG/OpenAI/Twitter etc. can control the information that 99% of people see (and seem to support the current leadership), it's almost impossible to get objective information if they don't want it out there.
- xnx 2y agoFox News could stop this tomorrow. The sway they have over their viewers is near absolute.
- HDThoreaun 2y agoFox news was late to board the trump train. They tried to get him to lose the primaries twice. Trump isnt beholden to fox