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> That fact that you think this is "nuts" tells me you think women aren't equally competent. No, it means that I want people in those places based on competenc

> That fact that you think this is "nuts" tells me you think women aren't equally competent. No, it means that I want people in those places based on competency, not gender, and certainly not 50/50 representation because some bureaucrats think equality should be forced down on people's throats. If you make it about gender or anything else, the problem lies with you. > And yet you elected Trump. Well, besides the "beautiful" over use, he actually made sense when he was talking. The word salads Kamala kept making...

ben_w 2y ago
> No, it means that I want people in those places based on competency, not gender, and certainly not 50/50 representation because some bureaucrats think equality should be forced down on people's throats. If you think that the current hiring discrepancy represents a genuine and real skill discrepancy, it is a logical necessity for you think that women are not equally capable. Conversely, if you think women are equally capable, then you must think that the hiring discrepancy is not justified by competency. If you get this far, then it follows that there is a huge opportunity for increasing the pool of competent leaders by requiring 50/50. As they do actually have a goal of increasing the economic potential of the region, this means they should push the issue. > Well, besides the "beautiful" over use, he actually made sense when he was talking. The word salads Kamala kept making... To quote one of many examples, this one about Biden at the beach in Trump’s Georgia response to the State of the Union: “Somebody said he looks great in a bathing suit, right? And you know, when he was in the sand and he was having a hard time lifting his feet through the sand, because you know sand is heavy, they figured three solid ounces per foot, but sand is a little heavy, and he’s sitting in a bathing suit. Look, at 81, do you remember Cary Grant? How good was Cary Grant, right? I don’t think Cary Grant, he was good. I don’t know what happened to movie stars today. We used to have Cary Grant and Clark Gable and all these people. Today we have, I won’t say names, because I don’t need enemies. I don’t need enemies. I got enough enemies. But Cary Grant was, like – Michael Jackson once told me, ‘The most handsome man, Trump, in the world.’ ‘Who?’ ‘Cary Grant.’ Well, we don’t have that any more, but Cary Grant at 81 or 82, going on 100. This guy, he’s 81, going on 100. Cary Grant wouldn’t look too good in a bathing suit, either. And he was pretty good-looking, right?” - from https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/06/donald-trump-speech-analysis https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/06/donald-trump... I remember when LLMs were that weird, rambling — they were barely usable. Also: - https://www.salon.com/2024/09/06/incoherent-gibberish-experts-cant-find-a-complete-sentence-in-child-care-response/ https://www.salon.com/2024/09/06/incoherent-gibberish-expert... - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/trumps-rambling-speeches-raise-questions-about-mental-decline https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/trumps-rambling-speeches-r... - https://web.archive.org/web/20250206195722/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/06/us/politics/trump-speeches-age-cognitive-decline.html https://web.archive.org/web/20250206195722/https://www.nytim... Covfefe. Heck, that one became a meme so hard it has its own Wikipedia page. Trump's confusion and rambling is broadcast across the world, and mocked across the world — that's how I even know about it. Similar with GWB's… well, Bushisms. I've seen two relatives get Alzheimer's, and have been on the other end of a phone line with a third when they, mid-sentence, started talking as if I was my brother, speaking of me like I wasn't there, telling him how I was doing. Trump is old.
- Dalewyn 2y ago
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- ExoticPearTree 2y ago
  > If you think that the current hiring discrepancy represents a genuine and real skill discrepancy, it is a logical necessity for you think that women are not equally capable. I believe they are not equally interested in the same fields men are and vice-versa. So I don't see any value in forcing women and men to fields which they don't want to be in. > Conversely, if you think women are equally capable, then you must think that the hiring discrepancy is not justified by competency. If you get this far, then it follows that there is a huge opportunity for increasing the pool of competent leaders by requiring 50/50. As they do actually have a goal of increasing the economic potential of the region, this means they should push the issue. I think they are equally capable in certain areas, and less capable in other areas. Just like men are less capable in some areas and more capable in others. It's how nature works, nothing sexist or discriminatory about it. Just like two men are not equal, or two women are not equal. But trying to forcefully push the narrative that somehow men and women are 100% equal is very detrimental to everyone involved.

ben_w 2y ago

> No, it means that I want people in those places based on competency, not gender, and certainly not 50/50 representation because some bureaucrats think equality should be forced down on people's throats. If you think that the current hiring discrepancy represents a genuine and real skill discrepancy, it is a logical necessity for you think that women are not equally capable. Conversely, if you think women are equally capable, then you must think that the hiring discrepancy is not justified by competency. If you get this far, then it follows that there is a huge opportunity for increasing the pool of competent leaders by requiring 50/50. As they do actually have a goal of increasing the economic potential of the region, this means they should push the issue. > Well, besides the "beautiful" over use, he actually made sense when he was talking. The word salads Kamala kept making... To quote one of many examples, this one about Biden at the beach in Trump’s Georgia response to the State of the Union: “Somebody said he looks great in a bathing suit, right? And you know, when he was in the sand and he was having a hard time lifting his feet through the sand, because you know sand is heavy, they figured three solid ounces per foot, but sand is a little heavy, and he’s sitting in a bathing suit. Look, at 81, do you remember Cary Grant? How good was Cary Grant, right? I don’t think Cary Grant, he was good. I don’t know what happened to movie stars today. We used to have Cary Grant and Clark Gable and all these people. Today we have, I won’t say names, because I don’t need enemies. I don’t need enemies. I got enough enemies. But Cary Grant was, like – Michael Jackson once told me, ‘The most handsome man, Trump, in the world.’ ‘Who?’ ‘Cary Grant.’ Well, we don’t have that any more, but Cary Grant at 81 or 82, going on 100. This guy, he’s 81, going on 100. Cary Grant wouldn’t look too good in a bathing suit, either. And he was pretty good-looking, right?” - from https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/06/donald-trump-speech-analysis https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/06/donald-trump... I remember when LLMs were that weird, rambling — they were barely usable. Also: - https://www.salon.com/2024/09/06/incoherent-gibberish-experts-cant-find-a-complete-sentence-in-child-care-response/ https://www.salon.com/2024/09/06/incoherent-gibberish-expert... - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/trumps-rambling-speeches-raise-questions-about-mental-decline https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/trumps-rambling-speeches-r... - https://web.archive.org/web/20250206195722/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/06/us/politics/trump-speeches-age-cognitive-decline.html https://web.archive.org/web/20250206195722/https://www.nytim... Covfefe. Heck, that one became a meme so hard it has its own Wikipedia page. Trump's confusion and rambling is broadcast across the world, and mocked across the world — that's how I even know about it. Similar with GWB's… well, Bushisms. I've seen two relatives get Alzheimer's, and have been on the other end of a phone line with a third when they, mid-sentence, started talking as if I was my brother, speaking of me like I wasn't there, telling him how I was doing. Trump is old.

Dalewyn 2y ago
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ExoticPearTree 2y ago
> If you think that the current hiring discrepancy represents a genuine and real skill discrepancy, it is a logical necessity for you think that women are not equally capable. I believe they are not equally interested in the same fields men are and vice-versa. So I don't see any value in forcing women and men to fields which they don't want to be in. > Conversely, if you think women are equally capable, then you must think that the hiring discrepancy is not justified by competency. If you get this far, then it follows that there is a huge opportunity for increasing the pool of competent leaders by requiring 50/50. As they do actually have a goal of increasing the economic potential of the region, this means they should push the issue. I think they are equally capable in certain areas, and less capable in other areas. Just like men are less capable in some areas and more capable in others. It's how nature works, nothing sexist or discriminatory about it. Just like two men are not equal, or two women are not equal. But trying to forcefully push the narrative that somehow men and women are 100% equal is very detrimental to everyone involved.