You're trying to weasel out of this, which I will not allow. I specifically said that they make profit in their car business _even excluding_ all the other thin

You're trying to weasel out of this, which I will not allow. I specifically said that they make profit in their car business _even excluding_ all the other things. They do carry forward prior losses, of course, of which they had a massive amount, and reduce their tax obligations to near zero with them, but they are profitably building EVs. Why? Because they are vertically integrated, and they also build their own batteries, like e.g. BYD.