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> We change the product constantly — we’re talking over 1,700 updates per year! Good job, the new red is a huge improvement. Meanwhile the YouTube comment sec

by thamer 2y ago

> We change the product constantly — we’re talking over 1,700 updates per year! Good job, the new red is a huge improvement. Meanwhile the YouTube comment sections are still getting pummeled by bots, trying to scam viewers with fake crypto offerings (90%+ involving an "Elon Musk giveaway") or writing entire threads praising the great investment returns from a genius trader named "Mr Definitely A. RealName" who operates only on WhatsApp. Take a look at the comments under this video for example, all the references to AMZ6OP are for a scam crypto token that they pretend is being launched by Amazon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRd_wNHJG4o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRd_wNHJG4o. I'm having doubts even reposting this link… please do not believe for a second that any of these claims are real. I guess changing red to red-ish magenta was apparently more important than addressing the widespread issues that have been plaguing YouTube for years.

ripped_britches 2y ago
Seems off topic. Do you actually think these designers have anything to do with spam detection?
throwaway314155 2y ago
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRd_wNHJG4o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRd_wNHJG4o It's somehow substantially less surprising to me that a video deep dive on cryptocurrency has these comments. Youtube should address it, but to a degree it's very much expected/comes with the territory. I don't follow cryptocurrency on YouTube (and in fact I made sure to "not interested" the link you posted, no offense). Anyway, I don't follow crypto and as such haven't had the issue you described. YouTube comments have been and always will be a cesspool. You should consider yourself luck that they actually improved quite a lot (at least in terms of toxicity and "stupidity") when the thumbs down button was nerfed.
ziddoap 2y ago
>I guess changing red to red-ish magenta was apparently more important than addressing the widespread issues that have been plaguing YouTube for years. I have a suspicion that the color and design folks are not the same people in charge of comment section spam/bots.
- recursivecaveat 2y ago
  Google laid off over 1000 people (100 in YT) last year. So at some point they did make a conscious decision that the 6 people making the red slightly more purple were more important than 1000 other roles.
  - ziddoap 2y ago
    Were those 100 people working in anti-spam/bot detection?
    - recursivecaveat 2y ago
      Apparently most were working on content creator relations, a lack of which is probably #1 in "widespread issues that have been plaguing YouTube for years" if you surveyed the people who make platform what it is. You also can't convince me 0 out of 1000 google employees are capable of taking on a spam prevention role. On a long enough time scale headcount is fungible.
      - ziddoap 2y ago
        >You also can't convince me 0 out of 1000 google employees are capable of taking on a spam prevention role. Similarly, you can't convince me that laying off 6 people would make any difference (let alone solve) any of the spam, bot, or content creator relations issues. So I guess we're at an impasse.

by thamer 2y ago

ripped_britches 2y ago

Seems off topic. Do you actually think these designers have anything to do with spam detection?

throwaway314155 2y ago

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRd_wNHJG4o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRd_wNHJG4o It's somehow substantially less surprising to me that a video deep dive on cryptocurrency has these comments. Youtube should address it, but to a degree it's very much expected/comes with the territory. I don't follow cryptocurrency on YouTube (and in fact I made sure to "not interested" the link you posted, no offense). Anyway, I don't follow crypto and as such haven't had the issue you described. YouTube comments have been and always will be a cesspool. You should consider yourself luck that they actually improved quite a lot (at least in terms of toxicity and "stupidity") when the thumbs down button was nerfed.

ziddoap 2y ago

>I guess changing red to red-ish magenta was apparently more important than addressing the widespread issues that have been plaguing YouTube for years. I have a suspicion that the color and design folks are not the same people in charge of comment section spam/bots.

recursivecaveat 2y ago
Google laid off over 1000 people (100 in YT) last year. So at some point they did make a conscious decision that the 6 people making the red slightly more purple were more important than 1000 other roles.
- ziddoap 2y ago
  Were those 100 people working in anti-spam/bot detection?
  - recursivecaveat 2y ago
    Apparently most were working on content creator relations, a lack of which is probably #1 in "widespread issues that have been plaguing YouTube for years" if you surveyed the people who make platform what it is. You also can't convince me 0 out of 1000 google employees are capable of taking on a spam prevention role. On a long enough time scale headcount is fungible.
    - ziddoap 2y ago
      >You also can't convince me 0 out of 1000 google employees are capable of taking on a spam prevention role. Similarly, you can't convince me that laying off 6 people would make any difference (let alone solve) any of the spam, bot, or content creator relations issues. So I guess we're at an impasse.