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Given how easy it is to blow out a Phillips head with a drill and a bit that's not perfect, and given how much difference a good 135 degree jobber bit from a re

Given how easy it is to blow out a Phillips head with a drill and a bit that's not perfect, and given how much difference a good 135 degree jobber bit from a reputable manufacturer like Norseman makes, I can't see this being very good at either in a real world scenario.

m00x 2y ago
Yeah but how many phillips heads are you buying that are carbide?
- dmoy 2y ago
  I mean ... zero? I've stripped enough screws as it is, I don't really want to increase that ratio
lostlogin 2y ago
My eye is twitching. I was out on a bike last week - it’s easily the nicest possession I have and perhaps the nicest I’ll ever have, a Cervélo Soloist. The front rotor starting rubbing the calliper after a fast descent. I happened to have the correct tool and went to adjust the calliper and immediately stripped the screw head. I went to three bike shops, but all were too scared to touch it. I did as the my all said. I cut a slot in the screw with a Dremel and tried a large flathead screwdriver, but it still wouldn’t budge. So I made the sides flat and got it out with a massive spanner. Bike frame miraculously untouched. Satan himself arranged for these shit screws to be put in that amazing frame.
- sonofhans 2y ago
  Oh, my hands are sweating just reading that. I think I’d rather land a 737 than take a dremel near that much Italian carbon.
  - gield 2y ago
    Cervélo is not an Italian company, they're Canadian. Its name is partially Italian as it's a portmanteau of cervello (brain in Italian) and vélo (bike in French).
    - lostlogin 2y ago
      And like the rest, presumably made in China.
    - sonofhans 2y ago
      TIL. That’s funny, I’ve thought for 20 years they were Italian. Thank you!
    - gnabgib 2y ago
      Owned by Pon Holdings since 2011 (who also own Gazelle, Derby, Raleigh, Ghost, Santa Cruz), with headquarters in California.
- overripebanana 2y ago
  Sounds scary! Was it an Allan key by any chance? I've done a fair share of bicycle repairs, and never had a problem after investing in a proper set of allan keys[1]. Several times I or friends have rounded the slot with a cheap tool, but fixed it just by trying again with the better tool. Glad your bike was okay in the end. [1] - https://wheelfanatyk.com/blogs/blog/wera-nails-it https://wheelfanatyk.com/blogs/blog/wera-nails-it
  - lostlogin 2y ago
    It was a SRAM torx, which are incredibly soft and I had the correct tool with me. I don’t like SRAM brakes. I do like the electronic shifting though. My brakes are now using Shimano Allan keys. I do fanaticise about using Shimano brakes, for a true mongrel bike.
sebazzz 2y ago
This looks like posidrive, not Philips.

m00x 2y ago

Yeah but how many phillips heads are you buying that are carbide?

dmoy 2y ago
I mean ... zero? I've stripped enough screws as it is, I don't really want to increase that ratio

lostlogin 2y ago

My eye is twitching. I was out on a bike last week - it’s easily the nicest possession I have and perhaps the nicest I’ll ever have, a Cervélo Soloist. The front rotor starting rubbing the calliper after a fast descent. I happened to have the correct tool and went to adjust the calliper and immediately stripped the screw head. I went to three bike shops, but all were too scared to touch it. I did as the my all said. I cut a slot in the screw with a Dremel and tried a large flathead screwdriver, but it still wouldn’t budge. So I made the sides flat and got it out with a massive spanner. Bike frame miraculously untouched. Satan himself arranged for these shit screws to be put in that amazing frame.

sonofhans 2y ago
Oh, my hands are sweating just reading that. I think I’d rather land a 737 than take a dremel near that much Italian carbon.
- gield 2y ago
  Cervélo is not an Italian company, they're Canadian. Its name is partially Italian as it's a portmanteau of cervello (brain in Italian) and vélo (bike in French).
  - lostlogin 2y ago
    And like the rest, presumably made in China.
  - sonofhans 2y ago
    TIL. That’s funny, I’ve thought for 20 years they were Italian. Thank you!
  - gnabgib 2y ago
    Owned by Pon Holdings since 2011 (who also own Gazelle, Derby, Raleigh, Ghost, Santa Cruz), with headquarters in California.
overripebanana 2y ago
Sounds scary! Was it an Allan key by any chance? I've done a fair share of bicycle repairs, and never had a problem after investing in a proper set of allan keys[1]. Several times I or friends have rounded the slot with a cheap tool, but fixed it just by trying again with the better tool. Glad your bike was okay in the end. [1] - https://wheelfanatyk.com/blogs/blog/wera-nails-it https://wheelfanatyk.com/blogs/blog/wera-nails-it
- lostlogin 2y ago
  It was a SRAM torx, which are incredibly soft and I had the correct tool with me. I don’t like SRAM brakes. I do like the electronic shifting though. My brakes are now using Shimano Allan keys. I do fanaticise about using Shimano brakes, for a true mongrel bike.

sebazzz 2y ago

This looks like posidrive, not Philips.