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They're also adding Starlink to iPhones. And they renamed the Gulf of Mexico in Apple Maps. Donated a million to Trump, and Cook attended his inauguration. Twi

They're also adding Starlink to iPhones. And they renamed the Gulf of Mexico in Apple Maps. Donated a million to Trump, and Cook attended his inauguration. Twice is coincidence. But five examples of collaboration is a clear message. I've used Apple devices my entire life, all the way back to when the Macintosh was made by Apple Computer. This is the first time I've ever felt like Apple doesn't want my money. Is anyone maintaining a list of technology companies that aren't collaborating with the far-right?

sho_hn 2y ago
The only large company news of note I've heard is Costco not cancelling its DEI initiatives. The resulting political pressure is high: https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/IACIO/2025/01/27/file_attachments/3144563/FINAL%20Costco%20Lettet%20%281%29.pdf https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/IACIO/2025/01/27...
- Drofus 2y ago
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  - palmotea 2y ago
    > Cancelling DEI is "not far left" but there's quite a distance between "not far left" and "far right". Honestly, I can't help but think that certain groups with "language setting power" (like the media) have gotten in the habit of using deliberate imprecision to tar ideas and people they oppose. For instance, build up a term like "extremist" or "far right" as a pejorative, then start applying it to mainstream opponents and fairly popular ideas. It's probably part of the arrogant 50%+1 strategy that failed so badly it got us our second Trump term.
    - hitekker 2y ago
      I believe the Chinese call it “discourse power” https://digichina.stanford.edu/work/lexicon-discourse-power-or-the-right-to-speak-huayu-quan/ https://digichina.stanford.edu/work/lexicon-discourse-power-...
    - Timon3 2y ago
      > It's probably part of the arrogant 50%+1 strategy that failed so badly it got us our second Trump term. I find this perspective fascinating, considering how much of Trumps playbook is doing exactly this. Just look back at all the culture war topics of the last years. All of Trumps enemies were smeared as radical far-left Marxist communist CRT DEI traitors to the country, but this doesn't seem to hurt his chances, only increase them. Why does the right apparently eat this stuff up so much more readily than the left?
      - palmotea 2y ago
        Honestly, it might be because Trump has basically zero credibility, so the attempts at this kind of manipulation don't grate as much. I read things like "far-left Marxist communist CRT DEI traitors to the country" as basically meaning "our hated enemy" and I expect no real descriptive content. However, if some New York Times editorial misleadingly uses "far right" to tar someone, I'm annoyed because I expect better of them. Also, attempts to "go down to their level" when attacking, for things like this, seem to have the practical effect of actually legitimizing "them," because it cedes more valuable high ground.
unsnap_biceps 2y ago
I'm very disappointed, but not surprised. This points to the lack of choice we have with big tech and the only positive I can see is the hopeful seeds taking root of the next set of tech giants hopefully focusing on user value.
Drofus 2y ago
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talldayo 2y ago
> This is the first time I've ever felt like Apple doesn't want my money. Listen, Tim Cook gave Trump a personal tour of the Mac Pro factory in 2019 and then gave him a $6,000 Mac Pro when leaving office. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/20/apple-ceo-tim-cook-and-preident-trump-tour-texas-computer-factory.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/20/apple-ceo-tim-cook-and-preid... https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/tech/apple-trump-mac-pro/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/tech/apple-trump-mac-pro/inde... It's been half a decade of Tim Cook supporting Trump without any real consequence. You missed the boat to take a principled stance a loooooong time ago, Apple already used your loyalty for everything it was worth. It wouldn't shock me if Tim Cook retires in 4 years, having squeezed all the credibility out of himself he could get. We all said this was going to happen, too. Apple's "we care about diversity!" and "privacy is a human right" shticks are blatant grandstanding. But maybe America needs another 4 years to simmer before we know how we feel about Mr. Tim Apple.
- insane_dreamer 2y ago
  Those things don't feel at the same level as the latest ass-kissing. Having the President tour a new factory is not at all uncommon. And while Trump 1.0 was more of a bumbling egotistical fool, Trump 2.0 is going full-fascist; much worse.

sho_hn 2y ago

The only large company news of note I've heard is Costco not cancelling its DEI initiatives. The resulting political pressure is high: https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/IACIO/2025/01/27/file_attachments/3144563/FINAL%20Costco%20Lettet%20%281%29.pdf https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/IACIO/2025/01/27...

Drofus 2y ago
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- palmotea 2y ago
  > Cancelling DEI is "not far left" but there's quite a distance between "not far left" and "far right". Honestly, I can't help but think that certain groups with "language setting power" (like the media) have gotten in the habit of using deliberate imprecision to tar ideas and people they oppose. For instance, build up a term like "extremist" or "far right" as a pejorative, then start applying it to mainstream opponents and fairly popular ideas. It's probably part of the arrogant 50%+1 strategy that failed so badly it got us our second Trump term.
  - hitekker 2y ago
    I believe the Chinese call it “discourse power” https://digichina.stanford.edu/work/lexicon-discourse-power-or-the-right-to-speak-huayu-quan/ https://digichina.stanford.edu/work/lexicon-discourse-power-...
  - Timon3 2y ago
    > It's probably part of the arrogant 50%+1 strategy that failed so badly it got us our second Trump term. I find this perspective fascinating, considering how much of Trumps playbook is doing exactly this. Just look back at all the culture war topics of the last years. All of Trumps enemies were smeared as radical far-left Marxist communist CRT DEI traitors to the country, but this doesn't seem to hurt his chances, only increase them. Why does the right apparently eat this stuff up so much more readily than the left?
    - palmotea 2y ago
      Honestly, it might be because Trump has basically zero credibility, so the attempts at this kind of manipulation don't grate as much. I read things like "far-left Marxist communist CRT DEI traitors to the country" as basically meaning "our hated enemy" and I expect no real descriptive content. However, if some New York Times editorial misleadingly uses "far right" to tar someone, I'm annoyed because I expect better of them. Also, attempts to "go down to their level" when attacking, for things like this, seem to have the practical effect of actually legitimizing "them," because it cedes more valuable high ground.

unsnap_biceps 2y ago

I'm very disappointed, but not surprised. This points to the lack of choice we have with big tech and the only positive I can see is the hopeful seeds taking root of the next set of tech giants hopefully focusing on user value.

Drofus 2y ago

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talldayo 2y ago

> This is the first time I've ever felt like Apple doesn't want my money. Listen, Tim Cook gave Trump a personal tour of the Mac Pro factory in 2019 and then gave him a $6,000 Mac Pro when leaving office. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/20/apple-ceo-tim-cook-and-preident-trump-tour-texas-computer-factory.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/20/apple-ceo-tim-cook-and-preid... https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/tech/apple-trump-mac-pro/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/tech/apple-trump-mac-pro/inde... It's been half a decade of Tim Cook supporting Trump without any real consequence. You missed the boat to take a principled stance a loooooong time ago, Apple already used your loyalty for everything it was worth. It wouldn't shock me if Tim Cook retires in 4 years, having squeezed all the credibility out of himself he could get. We all said this was going to happen, too. Apple's "we care about diversity!" and "privacy is a human right" shticks are blatant grandstanding. But maybe America needs another 4 years to simmer before we know how we feel about Mr. Tim Apple.

insane_dreamer 2y ago
Those things don't feel at the same level as the latest ass-kissing. Having the President tour a new factory is not at all uncommon. And while Trump 1.0 was more of a bumbling egotistical fool, Trump 2.0 is going full-fascist; much worse.