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Not really that wild of a development with consideration to Trump's first administration.

andsoitis 2y ago
> Not really that wild of a development with consideration to Trump's first administration. But we can take it further. "Biden administration awards space contracts to world's richest man who pushes Nazi propaganda" Somewhere, there's a flaw of logic OR a sense of hypocritical righteousness. Or maybe something else?
- mlinhares 2y ago
  There's no other company to send satellites now, there's plenty of places to advertise.
  - andsoitis 2y ago
    > There's no other company to send satellites now, there's plenty of places to advertise. There is only one company that can launch satellites? Even if that were true, your statement is a form my original comment is trying to dissect. The statement you made suggests that once a moral stand inconveniences even the most ardent moralist, they are likely to cave, or to put it more directly: "talk is cheap".
    - mlinhares 2y ago
      Nah, the government should definitely find other companies to do this job or invest in its own capacity to do it again, but comparing buying ads to deploying satellites makes no sense at all. One is a commodity and the other is a highly specialized business mostly propped up by government itself.
- msie 2y ago
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  - andsoitis 2y ago
    We can do a thought experiment: if the Democratic Party had won, would they have boycotted SpaceX? We can't know for sure what the answer to that would be, but I have a strong suspicion.
    - ivewonyoung 2y ago
      The Biden government didn't invite Tesla to an official EV summit where Biden declared GM's Mary Barra as the pioneer of EVs when GM sold 28 EVs that quarter and Tesla sold 200K+. WSJ later revealed the snub was because of union pressure after donating a lot to the Biden campaign. That's one of the reasons that Musk went down this path after having voted for Biden.
      - andsoitis 2y ago
        > The Biden government didn't invite Tesla to an official EV summit where Biden declared GM's Mary Barra as the pioneer of EVs when GM sold 28 EVs that quarter and Tesla sold 200K+. The problem with that is while it triggered Musk, I don't know that it actually accomplished anything useful. Did it affect Musk financially? Or his reputation? Unless there's an impact that I'm aware of, I would classify the act as toothless or, more euphemistically, "not as effective as it could be".
        ivewonyoung 2y ago
        > I don't know that it actually accomplished anything useful It was a form of kickback to their big donor, the UAW, for a long time they were planning to exclude Tesla from EV subsidies and gave up on that plan only at the last minute. Then the govt came in with bags of money to try and neutralize the advantage of Tesla's supercharger network by building a bigger network with taxpayer funds. So that the supercharger network wouldn't be a competitive advantage over the UAW car companies who neglected building charging stations and EVs despite billions in profit every year.
        2y ago
- 50208 2y ago
  I prefer "Lawless trillionaire oligarchy with neuro-net connected robot militia takes control of the Americas. Thanks Obama".
- deleted 2y ago
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> Not really that wild of a development with consideration to Trump's first administration. But we can take it further. "Biden administration awards space contracts to world's richest man who pushes Nazi propaganda" Somewhere, there's a flaw of logic OR a sense of hypocritical righteousness. Or maybe something else?

mlinhares 2y ago
There's no other company to send satellites now, there's plenty of places to advertise.
- andsoitis 2y ago
  > There's no other company to send satellites now, there's plenty of places to advertise. There is only one company that can launch satellites? Even if that were true, your statement is a form my original comment is trying to dissect. The statement you made suggests that once a moral stand inconveniences even the most ardent moralist, they are likely to cave, or to put it more directly: "talk is cheap".
  - mlinhares 2y ago
    Nah, the government should definitely find other companies to do this job or invest in its own capacity to do it again, but comparing buying ads to deploying satellites makes no sense at all. One is a commodity and the other is a highly specialized business mostly propped up by government itself.
msie 2y ago
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- andsoitis 2y ago
  We can do a thought experiment: if the Democratic Party had won, would they have boycotted SpaceX? We can't know for sure what the answer to that would be, but I have a strong suspicion.
  - ivewonyoung 2y ago
    The Biden government didn't invite Tesla to an official EV summit where Biden declared GM's Mary Barra as the pioneer of EVs when GM sold 28 EVs that quarter and Tesla sold 200K+. WSJ later revealed the snub was because of union pressure after donating a lot to the Biden campaign. That's one of the reasons that Musk went down this path after having voted for Biden.
    - andsoitis 2y ago
      > The Biden government didn't invite Tesla to an official EV summit where Biden declared GM's Mary Barra as the pioneer of EVs when GM sold 28 EVs that quarter and Tesla sold 200K+. The problem with that is while it triggered Musk, I don't know that it actually accomplished anything useful. Did it affect Musk financially? Or his reputation? Unless there's an impact that I'm aware of, I would classify the act as toothless or, more euphemistically, "not as effective as it could be".
      - ivewonyoung 2y ago
        > I don't know that it actually accomplished anything useful It was a form of kickback to their big donor, the UAW, for a long time they were planning to exclude Tesla from EV subsidies and gave up on that plan only at the last minute. Then the govt came in with bags of money to try and neutralize the advantage of Tesla's supercharger network by building a bigger network with taxpayer funds. So that the supercharger network wouldn't be a competitive advantage over the UAW car companies who neglected building charging stations and EVs despite billions in profit every year.
        2y ago
50208 2y ago
I prefer "Lawless trillionaire oligarchy with neuro-net connected robot militia takes control of the Americas. Thanks Obama".
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