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>But it really feels like I didn't improve my skills by doing it. I dunno hey. I used ChatGPT to teach me python. I had a similar experience, except I started

>But it really feels like I didn't improve my skills by doing it. I dunno hey. I used ChatGPT to teach me python. I had a similar experience, except I started with "This is a project to teach me python" and now I feel comfortable enough that I barely use ChatGPT, except for when I get to a sticky problem, and need something to bounce ideas off. In fact I get pissed off now with the amount of time I spend correcting ChatGPT in larger projects that I never bother to show it the whole code anymore. However I was working on plugging an arduino into my nonsense, and I did have it almost completely write the C code for that end of the project. But I am going to upgrade my Arduino shit this year and will be approaching it the same way, this time you teach me the arduino mister GPT.

tomrod 2y ago
Your experience mirrors my OpenAI experience. You would be surprised at how well composer mode works on cursor.
fuzzythinker 2y ago
Totally different usage than what you're quoting.
thefz 2y ago
How do you know the bot taught you the correct ("pythonic") way of doing things versus learning by yourself reading the docs?
- protocolture 2y ago
  Very good question. I dont. Perhaps I am pythoning wrong.
palata 2y ago
> I used ChatGPT to teach me python. I can imagine that if you don't know how to program, ChatGPT will be a nice teacher. But I think that there is a difference between learning how to program and using AI as an experienced developer. I have been coding for almost 25 years. When ChatGPT gives me a snippet in some language, I don't really need to read every word carefully before I get an intuition about whether or not it makes sense. When it gives me a good snippet, I honestly don't really have to read it entirely: I can just skim through it and tune it. I am not making the effort of programming, I am rather making the effort of reviewing. And as we all know it's easy to make a "lazy review". I think there is a difference between your situation and mine. It's great if ChatGPT helps you learn, but in my case I really think it makes me more productive by preventing me from improving myself, because improving takes time. Somehow ChatGPT is optimising away my learning time, if that makes sense.
- protocolture 2y ago
  Perhaps. In my role I wear a lot of hats, and abstracting away part of 1 hat while using it to help me develop my skills makes sense. But if you only wear that one hat, you are getting better at managing ChatGPT, rather than getting better at coding, because thats the most efficient output.

tomrod 2y ago

Your experience mirrors my OpenAI experience. You would be surprised at how well composer mode works on cursor.

fuzzythinker 2y ago

Totally different usage than what you're quoting.

thefz 2y ago

How do you know the bot taught you the correct ("pythonic") way of doing things versus learning by yourself reading the docs?

protocolture 2y ago
Very good question. I dont. Perhaps I am pythoning wrong.

palata 2y ago

> I used ChatGPT to teach me python. I can imagine that if you don't know how to program, ChatGPT will be a nice teacher. But I think that there is a difference between learning how to program and using AI as an experienced developer. I have been coding for almost 25 years. When ChatGPT gives me a snippet in some language, I don't really need to read every word carefully before I get an intuition about whether or not it makes sense. When it gives me a good snippet, I honestly don't really have to read it entirely: I can just skim through it and tune it. I am not making the effort of programming, I am rather making the effort of reviewing. And as we all know it's easy to make a "lazy review". I think there is a difference between your situation and mine. It's great if ChatGPT helps you learn, but in my case I really think it makes me more productive by preventing me from improving myself, because improving takes time. Somehow ChatGPT is optimising away my learning time, if that makes sense.

protocolture 2y ago
Perhaps. In my role I wear a lot of hats, and abstracting away part of 1 hat while using it to help me develop my skills makes sense. But if you only wear that one hat, you are getting better at managing ChatGPT, rather than getting better at coding, because thats the most efficient output.