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I share your sentiment about the experience developing with AI. But I've been playing with the idea that the concerns and gaps you've listed, can just be expli

by apsurd 2y ago

I share your sentiment about the experience developing with AI. But I've been playing with the idea that the concerns and gaps you've listed, can just be explicitly communicated with the AI. If you're concerned about weighing options, just tell the AI that exactly and pair with the thought process iteratively. For all things AI, one of the most useful things I say is "ok give me the best practice for X" and then "ok what about the contrarian view. show me that. what are the downsides, what about stuff we don't know we don't know"

palata 2y ago
I still believe it's not the same, but even if it was: actively trying to improve yourself this way makes you less productive. We are going towards a world were it is not acceptable to be less productive. You will be told to do that in your free time, here you need to produce as much as your coworkers. AI changes programming into assembly line work. It's more productive, but it loses 100% of what makes programming interesting to me.
- apsurd 2y ago
  That is a good point, in the same way the lure of $100k+ salaries inevitably attracted the masses, AI means "everyone can code!" I do share your lament. "Being productive" is a capitalist construct. There's a place for it. But I got into coding by messing with CSS and when the text turned red on my screen by something I did… WOW!!! I'll never forget that feeling. I make it a point to dabble in side projects on my own terms. Want to always keep that fire lit.
  - blooalien 2y ago
    > AI means "everyone can code!" In the same way as "Dreamweaver" (web IDE) means "everyone can make a webpage" maybe? Doesn't mean they can do it well at all. I made a ton of money in my early days as a web designer gettin' paid to fix up nasty messes of local business websites (cleaning up Dreamweaver tag-soup and such) in my area during those early years when half of everyone with a business "hired" their little teenage cousin "under the table" to build them a website for their business and ended up horribly regretting it.

by apsurd 2y ago

palata 2y ago

I still believe it's not the same, but even if it was: actively trying to improve yourself this way makes you less productive. We are going towards a world were it is not acceptable to be less productive. You will be told to do that in your free time, here you need to produce as much as your coworkers. AI changes programming into assembly line work. It's more productive, but it loses 100% of what makes programming interesting to me.

apsurd 2y ago
That is a good point, in the same way the lure of $100k+ salaries inevitably attracted the masses, AI means "everyone can code!" I do share your lament. "Being productive" is a capitalist construct. There's a place for it. But I got into coding by messing with CSS and when the text turned red on my screen by something I did… WOW!!! I'll never forget that feeling. I make it a point to dabble in side projects on my own terms. Want to always keep that fire lit.
- blooalien 2y ago
  > AI means "everyone can code!" In the same way as "Dreamweaver" (web IDE) means "everyone can make a webpage" maybe? Doesn't mean they can do it well at all. I made a ton of money in my early days as a web designer gettin' paid to fix up nasty messes of local business websites (cleaning up Dreamweaver tag-soup and such) in my area during those early years when half of everyone with a business "hired" their little teenage cousin "under the table" to build them a website for their business and ended up horribly regretting it.