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What terrorists went there after the invasion? How do you define a terrorist? As someone who shoots at an American?

fauigerzigerk 18y ago
Al-Qaeda and similar groups went there after the invasion. I define terrorists as a group of people who deliberately target civilians in order to instill terror in their peers.
- david927 18y ago
  That's what the U.S. Military says. I think you should check a better source. This discussion isn't appropriate for this forum; feel free to email me if you want to discuss this further.
  - fauigerzigerk 18y ago
    I'm referring to the findings of the US Senate, widely reported in the media. I don't know what their sources were, but I think there is little doubt that beheadings and bombings of civilians in Baghdad started after the invasion.
    - david927 18y ago
      You can be sure that the US Senate got their information from US Military and intelligence sources. I'm asking the source for a good reason: what's the more likely scenario? A) The US invades Iraq and suddenly tens of thousands fly there (not the US) to do their bombings and beheadings. or B) The US ends a dictatorship that kept the 65% Shiia majority down and there's civil war, which includes bombings and beheadings, and the US Military declares it to be Al-Queda to give soldiers the idea that they're "fighting evil" rather than just killing the people that live there.
      - fauigerzigerk 18y ago
        I think it's very likely that both A and B have some truth to them. I have heard many comments from Iraqis confirming that there are indeed a lot of foreigners present. You wouldn't need tens of thousands of them in order to be effective. They don't have to do all the bombings themselves. What we don't know, and probably never will, is what share of attrocities has been committed by which group. I do share your skepticism about information coming out of partisan sources.
- joubert 18y ago
  What about the situation in Gaza? Which groups are deliberately blowing up the Palestinian civilians? Are they terrorists? (Hint: see Chomsky's article http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/20316 http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/20316)

Al-Qaeda and similar groups went there after the invasion. I define terrorists as a group of people who deliberately target civilians in order to instill terror in their peers.

david927 18y ago
That's what the U.S. Military says. I think you should check a better source. This discussion isn't appropriate for this forum; feel free to email me if you want to discuss this further.
- fauigerzigerk 18y ago
  I'm referring to the findings of the US Senate, widely reported in the media. I don't know what their sources were, but I think there is little doubt that beheadings and bombings of civilians in Baghdad started after the invasion.
  - david927 18y ago
    You can be sure that the US Senate got their information from US Military and intelligence sources. I'm asking the source for a good reason: what's the more likely scenario? A) The US invades Iraq and suddenly tens of thousands fly there (not the US) to do their bombings and beheadings. or B) The US ends a dictatorship that kept the 65% Shiia majority down and there's civil war, which includes bombings and beheadings, and the US Military declares it to be Al-Queda to give soldiers the idea that they're "fighting evil" rather than just killing the people that live there.
    - fauigerzigerk 18y ago
      I think it's very likely that both A and B have some truth to them. I have heard many comments from Iraqis confirming that there are indeed a lot of foreigners present. You wouldn't need tens of thousands of them in order to be effective. They don't have to do all the bombings themselves. What we don't know, and probably never will, is what share of attrocities has been committed by which group. I do share your skepticism about information coming out of partisan sources.
joubert 18y ago
What about the situation in Gaza? Which groups are deliberately blowing up the Palestinian civilians? Are they terrorists? (Hint: see Chomsky's article http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/20316 http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/20316)