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Tesla makes great products.

by hanszarkov 2y ago

heyjamesknight 2y ago
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- mperham 2y ago
  The quality doesn't matter if consumers aren't willing to step into the showroom. YoY sales are cratering, down 50% (!!!) in Europe. That's catastrophic for a "quality product".
  - heyjamesknight 2y ago
    Which is fine, but that's a totally different argument than the idea that they're "bad cars". Like I said, Elon's viability as leader is absolutely up for question. But that has nothing to do with the quality of the vehicle.
- AlotOfReading 2y ago
  It's wild how different experiences can be. I've had some shitboxes in my day. One car had an air intake that would fall off, so you'd occasionally have to keep the RPMs above 2k or it would stall. One car was a 1970s Russian van held together with duct tape and prayers. The door fell off while driving one day, so I wired it back on with roadside scrap and kept going. The newish old model 3 I had for a few weeks during a backordered warranty repair was worse than either of them. The charging cable would get stuck. Sometimes the doors wouldn't open and I'd have to reboot the car. The headliner glue failed and dumped the roof on my head. You couldn't see through the rear window if it was raining too hard. Sentry mode would take 8-10% of the battery overnight. Many features simply didn't work without the cellular plan.
  - WillPostForFood 2y ago
    You couldn't see through the rear window if it was raining too hard. You think there was a glass defect? or was it just wet?
    - AlotOfReading 2y ago
      If there's too much rain, the water sheets off the low slope and makes it impossible to see. It needed fairly heavy rain for this to happen, but not so much that I felt uncomfortable driving (sans rear visibility issue).
  - heyjamesknight 2y ago
    Something, something, anecdotes and data. I've had three of them. All perfect. So I'm at least thrice as right as you are on the topic, I guess. But in all seriousness: I don't doubt that there are Teslas out there with issues. All car manufacturers make bad cars occasionally.
margalabargala 2y ago
Tesla has great battery and motor tech. Their quality control and car interiors leave a lot to be desired.
- silon42 2y ago
  The interior (and exterior) misfeatures is why wouldn't buy a Tesla... also, I'd prefer a slightly smaller car.

Tesla makes great products.

heyjamesknight 2y ago

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mperham 2y ago
The quality doesn't matter if consumers aren't willing to step into the showroom. YoY sales are cratering, down 50% (!!!) in Europe. That's catastrophic for a "quality product".
- heyjamesknight 2y ago
  Which is fine, but that's a totally different argument than the idea that they're "bad cars". Like I said, Elon's viability as leader is absolutely up for question. But that has nothing to do with the quality of the vehicle.
AlotOfReading 2y ago
It's wild how different experiences can be. I've had some shitboxes in my day. One car had an air intake that would fall off, so you'd occasionally have to keep the RPMs above 2k or it would stall. One car was a 1970s Russian van held together with duct tape and prayers. The door fell off while driving one day, so I wired it back on with roadside scrap and kept going. The newish old model 3 I had for a few weeks during a backordered warranty repair was worse than either of them. The charging cable would get stuck. Sometimes the doors wouldn't open and I'd have to reboot the car. The headliner glue failed and dumped the roof on my head. You couldn't see through the rear window if it was raining too hard. Sentry mode would take 8-10% of the battery overnight. Many features simply didn't work without the cellular plan.
- WillPostForFood 2y ago
  You couldn't see through the rear window if it was raining too hard. You think there was a glass defect? or was it just wet?
  - AlotOfReading 2y ago
    If there's too much rain, the water sheets off the low slope and makes it impossible to see. It needed fairly heavy rain for this to happen, but not so much that I felt uncomfortable driving (sans rear visibility issue).
- heyjamesknight 2y ago
  Something, something, anecdotes and data. I've had three of them. All perfect. So I'm at least thrice as right as you are on the topic, I guess. But in all seriousness: I don't doubt that there are Teslas out there with issues. All car manufacturers make bad cars occasionally.

margalabargala 2y ago

Tesla has great battery and motor tech. Their quality control and car interiors leave a lot to be desired.

silon42 2y ago
The interior (and exterior) misfeatures is why wouldn't buy a Tesla... also, I'd prefer a slightly smaller car.