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> desecration of memorial sites in Latvia Oh, you mean the monument to nazi collaborators? All of this happened after the EU started sending weapons to Ukrain

> desecration of memorial sites in Latvia Oh, you mean the monument to nazi collaborators? All of this happened after the EU started sending weapons to Ukraine for the purpose of killing Russians, sanctioning Russia heavily, freezed $300 billions in assets, not to mention the destruction of northstream 2. Reciprocal hostility is perfectly normal. None of these actions is severe enough that we can't establish friendly relations again, to our mutual benefit. > Greenland belongs to Denmark, and just today, Danish intelligence (FE) issued a new threat assessment[7]: DUH. They're facing the collective military industry and intelligence of NATO in Ukraine, there have been multiple threats from France and UK of sending their troops in Ukraine, prominent EU officials have been publicly talking about balkanizing Russia and you expect Russia to not prepare to face those threats? They'd be stupid not do it. This is ridiculous. It's like poking a bees nests and then complaining about their aggressiveness when they react. How about you stop poking first?

mopsi 2y ago
> Oh, you mean the monument to nazi collaborators? No. But name-calling everything a "nazi" does not surprise me one bit. To hardcore Russian nationalists, the mere existence of Latvian nation and state is "nazism". Since they were kicked out in the early 1990s, they've promised to return, murder everyone who opposes them, root out Latvian people and culture, and make Latvia theirs. Such revenge fantasies have been a common theme on Russian state media for decades. > All of this happened after the EU started sending weapons to Ukraine for the purpose of killing Russians, sanctioning Russia heavily, freezed $300 billions in assets, not to mention the destruction of northstream 2. Reciprocal hostility is perfectly normal. I expected you to say this - as an indication that you don't know what you are talking about. The hybrid attack against Poland started in 2021, a year before the latest Russian invasion of Ukraine and everything that followed it. The long chain of such hostile border violations, including extreme examples such as the attacks on Lithuanian border guards and their execution[1], goes back to early 1990s. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_OMON_assaults_on_Lithuanian_border_posts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_OMON_assaults_on_Lithua...
- ossobuco 2y ago
  > No. But name-calling everything a "nazi" does not surprise me one bit... They were literally fighting together with the Germans against the USSR. Learn your history before making audacious claims. For your other points, sorry but you don't get to escalate the conversation with new arguments without first answering to all of mine. BTW 2021 is 7 years after the western backed coup (maidan). Hostilities had been going on for a while.
  - rad_gruchalski 2y ago
    Dude, you are literally upset, and I’m just paraphrasing what you said) about Western „coup” (as you refer to Maidan) spoiling Russian coup (installing a puppet leader to drag Ukraine away from EU). Who are you, a Russian agent?
    - ossobuco 2y ago
      Let's not make shit up. Yanukovich was democratically elected. I am very upset btw, as this kind of idiotic and aggressive foreign policy we pursued brought us closer than ever to WWIII, caused millions of unnecessary deaths, worsened our (Europeans) quality of life, damaged our industry, put us in a very vulnerable geopolitical position, etc. > Who are you, a Russian agent? The more you speak, the more you sound like a fascist.
      - rad_gruchalski 2y ago
        Yes yes call me names. > Yanukovich was democratically elected. Putin and Lukashenko are also „democratically elected”. I am not going to attempt discussing the rest of your argument. You repeat the after Trump that millions of people died (a lot of people died but „millions” if factually incorrect), you blame the problems of EU on EU not going to bed with a dictator… and you’re upset with EU not bending to a dictator. I’m out of this discussion with you.
        ossobuco 2y ago
rad_gruchalski 2y ago
Let’s not make stuff up. First of all, it’s Russia who invaded Ukraine, not the other way around, regardless of the reasons. Hitler also had „reasons”. Weapons are sent to Ukraine so Ukraine can defend itself against the invasion. That Russians are killed from these weapons, duh… that Russians are attacked in some parts of Russia… duh. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Second, it’s not clear who destroyed NS2. It could have been Russia, Ukraine, or the US. Everyone has different theories but there’s no smoking gun pointing at anyone. You have been already told that but the hybrid war on Polish-Belarusian border started in 2021. Today they’re fighting a war with troops from North Korea. Russia is the only remaining nation on the Eurasian plate stuck mentally in the WW2 phase and crying out loud that the job hasn’t been finished in 1945. And I agree with this statement… Allies should have finished the job by going forward with Operation Unthinkable. We’d all save ourselves decades of struggles on this continent.
- ossobuco 2y ago
  > Let’s not make shit up Calm your horses. > First of all, it’s Russia who invaded Ukraine, not the other way around. Yes, and we couped Ukraine before that. > Weapons are sent to Ukraine so Ukraine can defend itself against the invasion. That Russians are killed from these weapons, duh… You seem to be conveniently forgetting the fact that Ukraine was neither in EU nor NATO, nor in any military alliance with a western country. Thus sending weapons to Ukraine is a direct act of hostility to Russia. Imagine what would've happened if Russia aided Afghanistan or Iraq with weapons and intelligence when the US invaded. Be intellectually honest.

mopsi 2y ago

> Oh, you mean the monument to nazi collaborators? No. But name-calling everything a "nazi" does not surprise me one bit. To hardcore Russian nationalists, the mere existence of Latvian nation and state is "nazism". Since they were kicked out in the early 1990s, they've promised to return, murder everyone who opposes them, root out Latvian people and culture, and make Latvia theirs. Such revenge fantasies have been a common theme on Russian state media for decades. > All of this happened after the EU started sending weapons to Ukraine for the purpose of killing Russians, sanctioning Russia heavily, freezed $300 billions in assets, not to mention the destruction of northstream 2. Reciprocal hostility is perfectly normal. I expected you to say this - as an indication that you don't know what you are talking about. The hybrid attack against Poland started in 2021, a year before the latest Russian invasion of Ukraine and everything that followed it. The long chain of such hostile border violations, including extreme examples such as the attacks on Lithuanian border guards and their execution[1], goes back to early 1990s. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_OMON_assaults_on_Lithuanian_border_posts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_OMON_assaults_on_Lithua...

ossobuco 2y ago
> No. But name-calling everything a "nazi" does not surprise me one bit... They were literally fighting together with the Germans against the USSR. Learn your history before making audacious claims. For your other points, sorry but you don't get to escalate the conversation with new arguments without first answering to all of mine. BTW 2021 is 7 years after the western backed coup (maidan). Hostilities had been going on for a while.
- rad_gruchalski 2y ago
  Dude, you are literally upset, and I’m just paraphrasing what you said) about Western „coup” (as you refer to Maidan) spoiling Russian coup (installing a puppet leader to drag Ukraine away from EU). Who are you, a Russian agent?
  - ossobuco 2y ago
    Let's not make shit up. Yanukovich was democratically elected. I am very upset btw, as this kind of idiotic and aggressive foreign policy we pursued brought us closer than ever to WWIII, caused millions of unnecessary deaths, worsened our (Europeans) quality of life, damaged our industry, put us in a very vulnerable geopolitical position, etc. > Who are you, a Russian agent? The more you speak, the more you sound like a fascist.
    - rad_gruchalski 2y ago
      Yes yes call me names. > Yanukovich was democratically elected. Putin and Lukashenko are also „democratically elected”. I am not going to attempt discussing the rest of your argument. You repeat the after Trump that millions of people died (a lot of people died but „millions” if factually incorrect), you blame the problems of EU on EU not going to bed with a dictator… and you’re upset with EU not bending to a dictator. I’m out of this discussion with you.
      - ossobuco 2y ago

rad_gruchalski 2y ago

Let’s not make stuff up. First of all, it’s Russia who invaded Ukraine, not the other way around, regardless of the reasons. Hitler also had „reasons”. Weapons are sent to Ukraine so Ukraine can defend itself against the invasion. That Russians are killed from these weapons, duh… that Russians are attacked in some parts of Russia… duh. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Second, it’s not clear who destroyed NS2. It could have been Russia, Ukraine, or the US. Everyone has different theories but there’s no smoking gun pointing at anyone. You have been already told that but the hybrid war on Polish-Belarusian border started in 2021. Today they’re fighting a war with troops from North Korea. Russia is the only remaining nation on the Eurasian plate stuck mentally in the WW2 phase and crying out loud that the job hasn’t been finished in 1945. And I agree with this statement… Allies should have finished the job by going forward with Operation Unthinkable. We’d all save ourselves decades of struggles on this continent.

ossobuco 2y ago
> Let’s not make shit up Calm your horses. > First of all, it’s Russia who invaded Ukraine, not the other way around. Yes, and we couped Ukraine before that. > Weapons are sent to Ukraine so Ukraine can defend itself against the invasion. That Russians are killed from these weapons, duh… You seem to be conveniently forgetting the fact that Ukraine was neither in EU nor NATO, nor in any military alliance with a western country. Thus sending weapons to Ukraine is a direct act of hostility to Russia. Imagine what would've happened if Russia aided Afghanistan or Iraq with weapons and intelligence when the US invaded. Be intellectually honest.