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“objectively bad” No, it’s subjectively bad for you. It really grinds my gears when people use “objectively” when being objective is to deal purely in unbiase

“objectively bad” No, it’s subjectively bad for you. It really grinds my gears when people use “objectively” when being objective is to deal purely in unbiased observable, repeatable facts. Your justification starts first with screen contrast - something that is truly in the eye of the beholder. Then you go on about “finger gymnastics” for shortcuts - again something that you (and yes I don’t disagree others as well) suffer from. Neither are issues that have bothered me one iota - so much so that your mention is really the first time I’ve thought about either. However you then compare this to another app that also has many detractors thus creating an instant bias.

Kuinox 2y ago
The amount of contrast can be measured. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Accessibility/Understanding_WCAG/Perceivable/Color_contrast https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Accessibility/U... Due to the poor font rendering and colors picked in Rider, by default there is a contrast of 4.77 which is just meet the minimum ratio, and for an app you stare all the day at, it's not enough. From the firefox docs: > Having good color contrast on your site benefits all your users It's written all your users, it's not subjective.
- MissTake 2y ago
  “minimum ratio” Which is what? Is it a well defined fact?
  - Kuinox 2y ago
    It's defined in the document I linked. And yes, it's a well defined fact.
    - MissTake 2y ago
      > When designing readable interfaces for different vision capabilities, the WCAG guidelines recommend the following contrast ratios So, they’re recommendations, not facts. A fact is not a recommendation. You can cling to this until the cows come home, but anything visual is dependent on the viewer. It’s not a fact. It’s subjective.
      - Kuinox 2y ago
        What you say are words not facts too. It's your opinion, wrong but still your opinion.
        MissTake 2y ago
        I’m simply stating that for something to be objective it has to be an absolute irrefutable fact. Anything else is subjective. A UI can never be objectively bad because it is based upon how someone sees it. For me, Gimp has a subjectivity bad UI because I’ve never been able to get my head around it. Other people find it’s perfect and that it’s really easy to use. Both statements are subjective. “Objective” and “subjective” are both words that have well defined accepted dictionary definitions.
        Kuinox 2y ago
        I suggest you to read some research on UX so you can understand that a big part of UX is in fact, not subjective. Like poor contrast cause reading fatigue on all humans, but at varying level. And that researchers determined a contrast ratio at which a certain percentage of the population can read without problems. And yes that's a recommendation because they can't force you to do it, so they recommand you to do it.

Kuinox 2y ago

The amount of contrast can be measured. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Accessibility/Understanding_WCAG/Perceivable/Color_contrast https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Accessibility/U... Due to the poor font rendering and colors picked in Rider, by default there is a contrast of 4.77 which is just meet the minimum ratio, and for an app you stare all the day at, it's not enough. From the firefox docs: > Having good color contrast on your site benefits all your users It's written all your users, it's not subjective.

MissTake 2y ago
“minimum ratio” Which is what? Is it a well defined fact?
- Kuinox 2y ago
  It's defined in the document I linked. And yes, it's a well defined fact.
  - MissTake 2y ago
    > When designing readable interfaces for different vision capabilities, the WCAG guidelines recommend the following contrast ratios So, they’re recommendations, not facts. A fact is not a recommendation. You can cling to this until the cows come home, but anything visual is dependent on the viewer. It’s not a fact. It’s subjective.
    - Kuinox 2y ago
      What you say are words not facts too. It's your opinion, wrong but still your opinion.
      - MissTake 2y ago
        I’m simply stating that for something to be objective it has to be an absolute irrefutable fact. Anything else is subjective. A UI can never be objectively bad because it is based upon how someone sees it. For me, Gimp has a subjectivity bad UI because I’ve never been able to get my head around it. Other people find it’s perfect and that it’s really easy to use. Both statements are subjective. “Objective” and “subjective” are both words that have well defined accepted dictionary definitions.
        Kuinox 2y ago
        I suggest you to read some research on UX so you can understand that a big part of UX is in fact, not subjective. Like poor contrast cause reading fatigue on all humans, but at varying level. And that researchers determined a contrast ratio at which a certain percentage of the population can read without problems. And yes that's a recommendation because they can't force you to do it, so they recommand you to do it.