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Those countries with unrestricted AGI will be the ones letting AI decide if you live or die depending on cost savings for share holders...

ExoticPearTree 2y ago
Not if Skynet emerges first and we all die :)) With every technological advancement it can always be good or bad. I believe it is going to be good to have a true AI available at our fingertips.
- mdhb 2y ago
  Ok but what lead you to that particular belief in the first place? Because I can think of a large number of historical scenarios where malicious people get access to certain capabilities and it absolutely does not go well and you do have to somehow account for the fact that this is a real thing that is going to happen.
  - ExoticPearTree 2y ago
    I thibk today there are are less malicious people than in the past. And considering that most people will use the AI for good, there is a good chance that the bad people will be easier to identify.
    - cess11 2y ago
      Why do you think that? There's more people than ever and it's easier than ever for the ones with malicious impulses to find and communicate with each other. For example, several governments are actively engaged in a live streamed genocide and nothing akin to the 1789 revolt in Paris seems to be underway.
      - vladms 2y ago
        And several revolutions are underway (simple examples Myanmar and Syria). And in Syria, "the previous government" lost. The 1789 was one of many revolutions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_peasant_revolts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_peasant_revolts) and it was not fought because of genocide of other people, it was due to internal problems.
        cess11 2y ago
        The new regime in Syria is rather reactionary, I'd say. Rojava is a revolution however. Sure. The ancien régime was considered illegitimate so they got rid of it, and if a state is involved in genocide it is since the Holocaust considered illegitimate and it should lose its sovereignty.
    - mdhb 2y ago
      Is this just a gut feeling or are there some specific reasons for why you think this?
      - ExoticPearTree 2y ago
        Gut feeling.
ta1243 2y ago
Those are "Death Panels", and only exist in places like the US where commercial needs run your health care
- snickerbockers 2y ago
  Canada had a case a couple years ago where a disabled person wanted canadian-medicare to pay for a wheelchair ramp in her house and they instead referred her to their assisted suicide program.
  - milesrout 2y ago
    Did they use AI to do it?
    - ta1243 2y ago
      > An investigation by VAC found four cases “isolated to a single employee who is no longer an employee of the Department” of assisted dying being brought up inappropriately to veterans.

ExoticPearTree 2y ago

Not if Skynet emerges first and we all die :)) With every technological advancement it can always be good or bad. I believe it is going to be good to have a true AI available at our fingertips.

mdhb 2y ago
Ok but what lead you to that particular belief in the first place? Because I can think of a large number of historical scenarios where malicious people get access to certain capabilities and it absolutely does not go well and you do have to somehow account for the fact that this is a real thing that is going to happen.
- ExoticPearTree 2y ago
  I thibk today there are are less malicious people than in the past. And considering that most people will use the AI for good, there is a good chance that the bad people will be easier to identify.
  - cess11 2y ago
    Why do you think that? There's more people than ever and it's easier than ever for the ones with malicious impulses to find and communicate with each other. For example, several governments are actively engaged in a live streamed genocide and nothing akin to the 1789 revolt in Paris seems to be underway.
    - vladms 2y ago
      And several revolutions are underway (simple examples Myanmar and Syria). And in Syria, "the previous government" lost. The 1789 was one of many revolutions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_peasant_revolts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_peasant_revolts) and it was not fought because of genocide of other people, it was due to internal problems.
      - cess11 2y ago
        The new regime in Syria is rather reactionary, I'd say. Rojava is a revolution however. Sure. The ancien régime was considered illegitimate so they got rid of it, and if a state is involved in genocide it is since the Holocaust considered illegitimate and it should lose its sovereignty.
  - mdhb 2y ago
    Is this just a gut feeling or are there some specific reasons for why you think this?
    - ExoticPearTree 2y ago
      Gut feeling.

ta1243 2y ago

Those are "Death Panels", and only exist in places like the US where commercial needs run your health care

snickerbockers 2y ago
Canada had a case a couple years ago where a disabled person wanted canadian-medicare to pay for a wheelchair ramp in her house and they instead referred her to their assisted suicide program.
- milesrout 2y ago
  Did they use AI to do it?
  - ta1243 2y ago
    > An investigation by VAC found four cases “isolated to a single employee who is no longer an employee of the Department” of assisted dying being brought up inappropriately to veterans.