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When was your last long FSD drive and what sort of (safety-critical or not) interventions did you have to make?

jajko 2y ago
The problem is the question itself - the only acceptable FSD is the one I don't have to do any interventions. My mind can wander, I can read a book or watch a movie, or sleep. Only thing I am willing to actually pay for. Anything less is adaptive cruise control + lane assist (keep & change), no matter how fancy the marketing wrapping on it. "Safety-critical interventions" WTF is that, car trying to kill you and your family and you fighting its bad decisions and for now winning over? The amount they would have to pay me for such alpha-testing to ever drive such vehicle is non-trivial even for tesla.
- romaaeterna 2y ago
  I don't have to do any interventions on my daily commute and haven't for about six months now. It's a better driver than I am, and has saved the life of a bicyclist that I and another car didn't see (bicycling dressed in black at night).
karlgkk 2y ago
Do you realize that you are exactly who I’m talking about? One only need to view the many videos on YouTube of ridiculous FSD interventions Yes, I’m aware it’s supposed to be monitored. Btw I love the implication in your line of questioning that I haven’t experienced fsd by demanding I give my own personal anecdotes So here’s three! The last time I experienced FSD was during the December 2024 free trial (12.5 I believe). On one trip, it unsafely botched a merge on Market Street in San Francsico by the Castro (ran out of room and faulted ) Actually, we tried that route because a few years ago, we’d had it completely fuck up by trying to navigate the wrong way down the road. So I supposed that’s an improvement. Later that week, FSD kept having trouble with a freeway off-ramp around San Mateo and when we did a go around, it tried to pull us into a dedicated bus lane. Well, it did pull through and get to the destination. And lastly, it consistently manages to navigate into my parking garage and then immediately drive out the other exit. So there’s your anecdotes. At least we didn’t slam head on into a lamp post.
- romaaeterna 2y ago
  I'm who you're talking about? I don't believe that you know me. Anyway, I can only say that I've had an impressively good experience with FSD, which I have put a lot of hours into. But I have noticed the same problem that you have with bus lanes. I disable it when I enter parking garages.
  - karlgkk 2y ago
    > I'm who you're talking about? I don't believe that you know me. And yet, I described you in my original post :)
    - romaaeterna 2y ago
      This? > Every time I point this out, I get jumped by a bunch of Tesla fanboys, $TSLA holders and the usual associated crowd. You have no basis to accuse me of any of that based on my single question to you. I disagree with you. I politely asked for your personal experience, which differs somewhat from mine. You are being rude.
      - karlgkk 2y ago
        You’re making my point for me and don’t even realize it. Your anecdotes are worthless and your belief that people couldn’t possibly know what they’re talking about if they havent tried it is ridiculous. You get the amount of courtesy from me that you deserve.

The problem is the question itself - the only acceptable FSD is the one I don't have to do any interventions. My mind can wander, I can read a book or watch a movie, or sleep. Only thing I am willing to actually pay for. Anything less is adaptive cruise control + lane assist (keep & change), no matter how fancy the marketing wrapping on it. "Safety-critical interventions" WTF is that, car trying to kill you and your family and you fighting its bad decisions and for now winning over? The amount they would have to pay me for such alpha-testing to ever drive such vehicle is non-trivial even for tesla.

romaaeterna 2y ago
I don't have to do any interventions on my daily commute and haven't for about six months now. It's a better driver than I am, and has saved the life of a bicyclist that I and another car didn't see (bicycling dressed in black at night).

karlgkk 2y ago

Do you realize that you are exactly who I’m talking about? One only need to view the many videos on YouTube of ridiculous FSD interventions Yes, I’m aware it’s supposed to be monitored. Btw I love the implication in your line of questioning that I haven’t experienced fsd by demanding I give my own personal anecdotes So here’s three! The last time I experienced FSD was during the December 2024 free trial (12.5 I believe). On one trip, it unsafely botched a merge on Market Street in San Francsico by the Castro (ran out of room and faulted ) Actually, we tried that route because a few years ago, we’d had it completely fuck up by trying to navigate the wrong way down the road. So I supposed that’s an improvement. Later that week, FSD kept having trouble with a freeway off-ramp around San Mateo and when we did a go around, it tried to pull us into a dedicated bus lane. Well, it did pull through and get to the destination. And lastly, it consistently manages to navigate into my parking garage and then immediately drive out the other exit. So there’s your anecdotes. At least we didn’t slam head on into a lamp post.

romaaeterna 2y ago
I'm who you're talking about? I don't believe that you know me. Anyway, I can only say that I've had an impressively good experience with FSD, which I have put a lot of hours into. But I have noticed the same problem that you have with bus lanes. I disable it when I enter parking garages.
- karlgkk 2y ago
  > I'm who you're talking about? I don't believe that you know me. And yet, I described you in my original post :)
  - romaaeterna 2y ago
    This? > Every time I point this out, I get jumped by a bunch of Tesla fanboys, $TSLA holders and the usual associated crowd. You have no basis to accuse me of any of that based on my single question to you. I disagree with you. I politely asked for your personal experience, which differs somewhat from mine. You are being rude.
    - karlgkk 2y ago
      You’re making my point for me and don’t even realize it. Your anecdotes are worthless and your belief that people couldn’t possibly know what they’re talking about if they havent tried it is ridiculous. You get the amount of courtesy from me that you deserve.