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They might be able to, but, if they are effectively saying "our product is broken and you can't use it until you do X" they could be responsible for massive con

They might be able to, but, if they are effectively saying "our product is broken and you can't use it until you do X" they could be responsible for massive contractual liabilities.

MichaelZuo 2y ago
Based on what legal reasoning…? I haven’t heard of any similar successful court cases in recent years in the US.
- p_l 2y ago
  Based on aviation law they can notify the certification authority of a mandatory fix which will be then required to be applied for users to aircraft operators to apply. If necessary with 0 deadline, i.e. "if the plane is on the ground it's not flying till the following change is applied"
  - MichaelZuo 2y ago
    Can you cite which parts of “aviation law” could have a decent chance of leading to the aformentioned outcome?
    - p_l 2y ago
      General worldwide: Chicago Convention aka ICAO convention (currently under auspices of UN), Annex 8 [2] and Annex 6 [3]. For USA [4], Title 14 of Code of Federal Regulations, Chapter I Subchapter C, Part 39 For EU [5] Article 76 (6) of the Basic Regulation (EU) 2018/1139 [1] https://www.icao.int/publications/pages/doc7300.aspx https://www.icao.int/publications/pages/doc7300.aspx [2] https://ffac.ch/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ICAO-Annex-8-Airworthiness-of-Aircraft.pdf https://ffac.ch/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ICAO-Annex-8-Airw... [3] https://ffac.ch/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ICAO-Annex-6-Operation-of-Aircraft-Part-I-International-commercial-air-transport.pdf https://ffac.ch/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ICAO-Annex-6-Oper... [4] https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-I/subchapter-C/part-39 https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-I/subchapter-C... [5] https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/document-library/regulations#basic-regulation https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/document-library/regulations#b...

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They might be able to, but, if they are effectively saying "our product is broken and you can't use it until you do X" they could be responsible for massive con

by AdamJacobMuller 2y ago

They might be able to, but, if they are effectively saying "our product is broken and you can't use it until you do X" they could be responsible for massive contractual liabilities.

MichaelZuo 2y ago
Based on what legal reasoning…? I haven’t heard of any similar successful court cases in recent years in the US.
- p_l 2y ago
  Based on aviation law they can notify the certification authority of a mandatory fix which will be then required to be applied for users to aircraft operators to apply. If necessary with 0 deadline, i.e. "if the plane is on the ground it's not flying till the following change is applied"
  - MichaelZuo 2y ago
    Can you cite which parts of “aviation law” could have a decent chance of leading to the aformentioned outcome?
    - p_l 2y ago
      General worldwide: Chicago Convention aka ICAO convention (currently under auspices of UN), Annex 8 [2] and Annex 6 [3]. For USA [4], Title 14 of Code of Federal Regulations, Chapter I Subchapter C, Part 39 For EU [5] Article 76 (6) of the Basic Regulation (EU) 2018/1139 [1] https://www.icao.int/publications/pages/doc7300.aspx https://www.icao.int/publications/pages/doc7300.aspx [2] https://ffac.ch/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ICAO-Annex-8-Airworthiness-of-Aircraft.pdf https://ffac.ch/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ICAO-Annex-8-Airw... [3] https://ffac.ch/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ICAO-Annex-6-Operation-of-Aircraft-Part-I-International-commercial-air-transport.pdf https://ffac.ch/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ICAO-Annex-6-Oper... [4] https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-I/subchapter-C/part-39 https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-I/subchapter-C... [5] https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/document-library/regulations#basic-regulation https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/document-library/regulations#b...