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Hackers leak cop manuals for departments after breaching major provider

78 points by pseudolus 2y ago

crimsoneer 2y ago
Here in the UK all this stuff is helpfully already public (hence no need for private middlemen) https://www.college.police.uk/app https://www.college.police.uk/app
- softgrow 2y ago
  Ditto NSW in Australia (but not all states).
  - softgrow 2y ago
    Correction QLD publishes, NSW has bits and pieces due to FOI requests.
envp 2y ago
The website is absolutely awful to use on mobile, archived here for sanity: https://archive.is/qdSIr https://archive.is/qdSIr
- entropie 2y ago
  Its also horrible on desktop. The content is literally a 15% area on the very left and most of the space is blank (or probably full of ads that are on multiple layers blocked on my client)
billy99k 2y ago
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- skulk 2y ago
  Would you like to explain how taking (perhaps illegal) action to force transparency in authority is somehow itself authoritarian?
  - progmetaldev 2y ago
    Most likely they are just posting for the "puppygirl hacker polycule", and "So we took matters into our own paws". My guess is that these words were chosen as a joke. I feel like we are in agreement that taking these manuals, considering nobody was physically hurt, is a good thing. The tactics and policies for law enforcement should absolutely be available to anyone, considering our tax dollars go towards these employees. Transparency is needed in order to help guarantee constitutional rights, as well as to know when individual rights have been violated. I'm not anti-law enforcement, I'm anti-corruption.
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giantg2 2y ago
Most of this stuff is available through right to know laws depending on the state.
- chaps 2y ago
  Yes, but you have to submit a request to every single one of those places. And then they have to review and redact them. I've had these policies denied in public records requests because the 800 page document would take many hours of review to complete. Had to submit the requests in piecemeal and it was very time consuming for me and the agency. That's just for one place.
prennert 2y ago
As an outsider (not living in the US), it is kind of weird that the US army manuals are public [0], and the police ones are private. [0]: https://armypubs.army.mil/ProductMaps/PubForm/FM.aspx https://armypubs.army.mil/ProductMaps/PubForm/FM.aspx
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78 points by pseudolus 2y ago

Here in the UK all this stuff is helpfully already public (hence no need for private middlemen) https://www.college.police.uk/app https://www.college.police.uk/app

softgrow 2y ago
Ditto NSW in Australia (but not all states).
- softgrow 2y ago
  Correction QLD publishes, NSW has bits and pieces due to FOI requests.

envp 2y ago

The website is absolutely awful to use on mobile, archived here for sanity: https://archive.is/qdSIr https://archive.is/qdSIr

entropie 2y ago
Its also horrible on desktop. The content is literally a 15% area on the very left and most of the space is blank (or probably full of ads that are on multiple layers blocked on my client)

billy99k 2y ago

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skulk 2y ago
Would you like to explain how taking (perhaps illegal) action to force transparency in authority is somehow itself authoritarian?
- progmetaldev 2y ago
  Most likely they are just posting for the "puppygirl hacker polycule", and "So we took matters into our own paws". My guess is that these words were chosen as a joke. I feel like we are in agreement that taking these manuals, considering nobody was physically hurt, is a good thing. The tactics and policies for law enforcement should absolutely be available to anyone, considering our tax dollars go towards these employees. Transparency is needed in order to help guarantee constitutional rights, as well as to know when individual rights have been violated. I'm not anti-law enforcement, I'm anti-corruption.

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giantg2 2y ago

Most of this stuff is available through right to know laws depending on the state.

chaps 2y ago
Yes, but you have to submit a request to every single one of those places. And then they have to review and redact them. I've had these policies denied in public records requests because the 800 page document would take many hours of review to complete. Had to submit the requests in piecemeal and it was very time consuming for me and the agency. That's just for one place.

prennert 2y ago

As an outsider (not living in the US), it is kind of weird that the US army manuals are public [0], and the police ones are private. [0]: https://armypubs.army.mil/ProductMaps/PubForm/FM.aspx https://armypubs.army.mil/ProductMaps/PubForm/FM.aspx

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