5 ms·

>At a $14k price point In China maybe where it's 100k RMB (~roughly $14k). Everywhere else it's the double or at least $25k. It's £26k ($32k) in the UK. It's €

>At a $14k price point In China maybe where it's 100k RMB (~roughly $14k). Everywhere else it's the double or at least $25k. It's £26k ($32k) in the UK. It's €32k ($33k) in Germany Even in Mexico it's $26k (535k pesos) not $14k https://www.autocosmos.com.mx/catalogo/vigente/byd/dolphin https://www.autocosmos.com.mx/catalogo/vigente/byd/dolphin

pfd1986 2y ago
Just did a quick check and it translates to $30K in Brazil as well
- kawera 2y ago
  Entry level Dolphins cost $20.5k in Brazil (R$118k).
  - haunter 2y ago
    That's the Dolphin Mini, a totally different car
    - deleted 2y ago
      [deleted]
wdb 2y ago
And in Singapore it’s US$120k. Not much more than Tesla or Mercedes etc
- throwaway2037 2y ago
  I assume this is the "all-in" price, that includes Singapore's famously highly car registration tax? I found these levels here: https://onemotoring.lta.gov.sg/content/onemotoring/home/buying/upfront-vehicle-costs/tax-structure.html https://onemotoring.lta.gov.sg/content/onemotoring/home/buyi...
  - hhandoko 2y ago
    Nope... US$120k is most likely the base price (car + taxes). The Certificate of Enrolment (CoE) is market rate, and right now it's an additional SG$85k to SG$111k depending on the vehicle category (on top of the base price). https://www.motorist.sg/coe-results https://www.motorist.sg/coe-results https://bydcars.sg/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/BYD-Pricelist-8-Jan-–-12-Jan-2025-.pdf https://bydcars.sg/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/BYD-Pricelist-...
    - goatsi 2y ago
      I read that flyer as the price of the car plus COE. The "Excite Package" Dolphin lists "Guaranteed COE" for $165,888 Singapore dollars ($122,505 USD) all in. >In Singapore, most people typically purchase new vehicles through dealers. Dealers will collect orders from customers and participate in the COE bidding on behalf of their customers. >Supply and demand set the price for COE, which regulates demand. When COE prices are high, vehicle prices, as quoted by dealers, will have to increase, reducing demand. When COE prices are lower, dealers can afford to reduce prices if they want to, which will increase demand. https://dollarsandsense.sg/guide-understanding-coe-bidding-system-works-singapore/ https://dollarsandsense.sg/guide-understanding-coe-bidding-s... It looks like dealers handle getting the COE (which makes sense, since you couldn't drive the vehicle off the lot without one). Subtract the $85,000 (SD) CAT A COE cost from the car price and it comes out to $80,000 (SD), or ~$60,000 USD.
deleted 2y ago
[deleted]
bdunks 2y ago
Thank you for the correction and clarification. I didn’t dig into country specific pricing before posting. While still higher, I believe these are all very reasonable prices — perhaps just not as mind blowing. I’m optimistic for the future.
- michpoch 2y ago
  > I believe these are all very reasonable prices Sure, as reasonable as offers from Western manufacturers. You can get plenty of EVs for 30k USD.
  - phs318u 2y ago
    Not in Australia you don't. Outside of Chinese EVs, you won't find an EV here for under AUD$55K (last time I looked, which was about 6 months ago).
  - Gud 2y ago
    Are they comparable to BYD Dolphin?
    - tonyedgecombe 2y ago
      Right now they have stronger service networks and better parts availability.
    - michpoch 2y ago
      The western ones are much better, e.g. VW ID3.
  - hulitu 2y ago
    > You can get plenty of EVs for 30k USD. Yes. Dacia Sprint. Plenty of it.
    - michpoch 2y ago
      Dacia costs ~14k USD here (Switzerland).
timv 2y ago
In Australia the entry level "Dolphin essential" is A$30k which is between US$18.5k and US$21k, depending on the (fairly volatile) exchange rates. Still not US$14k, but not quite the $25k it is in other markets.
- senti_sentient 2y ago
  He probably meant Seagull, which is also sold as Dolphin Mini in some countries.
  - SapporoChris 2y ago
    "The Seagull went on sale in Mexico as the Dolphin Mini in March 2024. It is available in two variants, dubbed the Dolphin Mini and Dolphin Mini Plus, which are equipped with a 30.88 kWh and 38.88 kWh battery respectively." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_Seagull https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_Seagull https://mexico.as.com/motor/byd-dolphin-mini-que-tiene-de-especial-este-auto-electrico-n/ https://mexico.as.com/motor/byd-dolphin-mini-que-tiene-de-es...

pfd1986 2y ago

Just did a quick check and it translates to $30K in Brazil as well

kawera 2y ago
Entry level Dolphins cost $20.5k in Brazil (R$118k).
- haunter 2y ago
  That's the Dolphin Mini, a totally different car
  - deleted 2y ago
    [deleted]

wdb 2y ago

And in Singapore it’s US$120k. Not much more than Tesla or Mercedes etc

throwaway2037 2y ago
I assume this is the "all-in" price, that includes Singapore's famously highly car registration tax? I found these levels here: https://onemotoring.lta.gov.sg/content/onemotoring/home/buying/upfront-vehicle-costs/tax-structure.html https://onemotoring.lta.gov.sg/content/onemotoring/home/buyi...
- hhandoko 2y ago
  Nope... US$120k is most likely the base price (car + taxes). The Certificate of Enrolment (CoE) is market rate, and right now it's an additional SG$85k to SG$111k depending on the vehicle category (on top of the base price). https://www.motorist.sg/coe-results https://www.motorist.sg/coe-results https://bydcars.sg/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/BYD-Pricelist-8-Jan-–-12-Jan-2025-.pdf https://bydcars.sg/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/BYD-Pricelist-...
  - goatsi 2y ago
    I read that flyer as the price of the car plus COE. The "Excite Package" Dolphin lists "Guaranteed COE" for $165,888 Singapore dollars ($122,505 USD) all in. >In Singapore, most people typically purchase new vehicles through dealers. Dealers will collect orders from customers and participate in the COE bidding on behalf of their customers. >Supply and demand set the price for COE, which regulates demand. When COE prices are high, vehicle prices, as quoted by dealers, will have to increase, reducing demand. When COE prices are lower, dealers can afford to reduce prices if they want to, which will increase demand. https://dollarsandsense.sg/guide-understanding-coe-bidding-system-works-singapore/ https://dollarsandsense.sg/guide-understanding-coe-bidding-s... It looks like dealers handle getting the COE (which makes sense, since you couldn't drive the vehicle off the lot without one). Subtract the $85,000 (SD) CAT A COE cost from the car price and it comes out to $80,000 (SD), or ~$60,000 USD.

deleted 2y ago

[deleted]

bdunks 2y ago

Thank you for the correction and clarification. I didn’t dig into country specific pricing before posting. While still higher, I believe these are all very reasonable prices — perhaps just not as mind blowing. I’m optimistic for the future.

michpoch 2y ago
> I believe these are all very reasonable prices Sure, as reasonable as offers from Western manufacturers. You can get plenty of EVs for 30k USD.
- phs318u 2y ago
  Not in Australia you don't. Outside of Chinese EVs, you won't find an EV here for under AUD$55K (last time I looked, which was about 6 months ago).
- Gud 2y ago
  Are they comparable to BYD Dolphin?
  - tonyedgecombe 2y ago
    Right now they have stronger service networks and better parts availability.
  - michpoch 2y ago
    The western ones are much better, e.g. VW ID3.
- hulitu 2y ago
  > You can get plenty of EVs for 30k USD. Yes. Dacia Sprint. Plenty of it.
  - michpoch 2y ago
    Dacia costs ~14k USD here (Switzerland).

timv 2y ago

In Australia the entry level "Dolphin essential" is A$30k which is between US$18.5k and US$21k, depending on the (fairly volatile) exchange rates. Still not US$14k, but not quite the $25k it is in other markets.

senti_sentient 2y ago
He probably meant Seagull, which is also sold as Dolphin Mini in some countries.
- SapporoChris 2y ago
  "The Seagull went on sale in Mexico as the Dolphin Mini in March 2024. It is available in two variants, dubbed the Dolphin Mini and Dolphin Mini Plus, which are equipped with a 30.88 kWh and 38.88 kWh battery respectively." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_Seagull https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_Seagull https://mexico.as.com/motor/byd-dolphin-mini-que-tiene-de-especial-este-auto-electrico-n/ https://mexico.as.com/motor/byd-dolphin-mini-que-tiene-de-es...