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Are you suggesting, that nobody ever changes their opinions based on research papers?

by fsflover 2y ago

doublerabbit 2y ago
Pretty much. I can pitch documents after document and it still comes back to "well thats nice but i'll believe me".
- fsflover 2y ago
  This is anecdotal fallacy. I observed people changing their opinions here, at HN.
  - ANewFormation 2y ago
    This is not the sort of topic where that happens. Everybody is aware that if you spin the data this way or that on these sort of topics (broadly - social science with strong preformed views that tends to directly apply to oneself) that you can prove whatever you want, and all a plurality one way or the other demonstrates is the trending bias among those publishing in such a field. When people do change their minds on such topics it tends to be from lived wisdom rather than learned knowledge. Or starting to see such things through the perspective of your children, rather than yourself.
    - fsflover 2y ago
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Syonyk 2y ago
On a topic that is emotionally loaded, personal, and increasingly political? I question if having provided a few links would change anyone's opinion, yes. I started out planning to add a pile of them, but it's hard to find anything that comes across as "neutral" - either the sources are very pro-porn sources arguing that there's no problem, or they're very anti-porn sources - anti-trafficking organizations, web filter/accountability software, etc. I'm not sure the endless stories of how porn has screwed up young men on Reddit will really change minds either. Perhaps if someone is on the fence, the stories and encouragement of getting over it will help, but that's not really the point being discussed. So, no, I didn't think it was worth the effort to do a heavily researched set of links on this topic. Sorry.
- fsflover 2y ago
  You're not gonna change the opinion of your opponent. However you can affect the opinion of silent observers. Reddit links aren't research. Try to find scientific articles.
- jillyboel 2y ago
  I see you still haven't bothered to provide any sources, so I'll just conclude you're talking out of your ass. Sorry.
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Are you suggesting, that nobody ever changes their opinions based on research papers?

doublerabbit 2y ago

Pretty much. I can pitch documents after document and it still comes back to "well thats nice but i'll believe me".

fsflover 2y ago
This is anecdotal fallacy. I observed people changing their opinions here, at HN.
- ANewFormation 2y ago
  This is not the sort of topic where that happens. Everybody is aware that if you spin the data this way or that on these sort of topics (broadly - social science with strong preformed views that tends to directly apply to oneself) that you can prove whatever you want, and all a plurality one way or the other demonstrates is the trending bias among those publishing in such a field. When people do change their minds on such topics it tends to be from lived wisdom rather than learned knowledge. Or starting to see such things through the perspective of your children, rather than yourself.
  - fsflover 2y ago
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Syonyk 2y ago

On a topic that is emotionally loaded, personal, and increasingly political? I question if having provided a few links would change anyone's opinion, yes. I started out planning to add a pile of them, but it's hard to find anything that comes across as "neutral" - either the sources are very pro-porn sources arguing that there's no problem, or they're very anti-porn sources - anti-trafficking organizations, web filter/accountability software, etc. I'm not sure the endless stories of how porn has screwed up young men on Reddit will really change minds either. Perhaps if someone is on the fence, the stories and encouragement of getting over it will help, but that's not really the point being discussed. So, no, I didn't think it was worth the effort to do a heavily researched set of links on this topic. Sorry.

fsflover 2y ago
You're not gonna change the opinion of your opponent. However you can affect the opinion of silent observers. Reddit links aren't research. Try to find scientific articles.
jillyboel 2y ago
I see you still haven't bothered to provide any sources, so I'll just conclude you're talking out of your ass. Sorry.
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