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Workers in various industries have pled for their jobs and programmers said "no, my code can replace you". Now that automation is coming for them, it's suddenly

Workers in various industries have pled for their jobs and programmers said "no, my code can replace you". Now that automation is coming for them, it's suddenly "the dumbest mistake". Tech has "disrupted" many industries, leaving some better, but many worse. Now that "disruption" is pointed inwards. Programmers will have to adapt to the new market conditions like everyone else. There will either be fewer jobs to go around (like what happened to assembly line workers), or they will have to switch to doing other tasks that are not as easy to replace yet (like bank tellers).

selfmodruntime 2y ago
The real funny thing is that now we‘re replacers and the replaced at the same time. We plead to ourselves. The wings have begun melting and nothing will stop it. Finally, Icarus has flown too close to the sun.
- NicuCalcea 2y ago
  Ultimately, it's executives and shareholders who make the decisions, and they will always be able to pay some programmers enough to replace the other ones. I don't think of developers as having a lot of professional or class solidarity.
- shinycode 2y ago
  I’d like to see stakeholder only talking to an LLM to built a product with millions of lines of code and push all that into production where other companies depend on it to run themselves. Good luck when there’s a critical bug and the LLM keep saying « looks good to me ». If devs are completely replaced then PO, PM, everyone else can be replaced as well. No need to build companies around software
jopsen 2y ago
LLMs might enable us to build things we couldn't build before. It's just as plausible that the market will simply grow.
- NicuCalcea 2y ago
  I think so too, but only up to some point when having humans in the loop will start bringing diminishing returns. Just like the number of bank tellers actually grew after the introduction of ATMs, as the market grew because of them, but is now rapidly falling.

selfmodruntime 2y ago

The real funny thing is that now we‘re replacers and the replaced at the same time. We plead to ourselves. The wings have begun melting and nothing will stop it. Finally, Icarus has flown too close to the sun.

NicuCalcea 2y ago
Ultimately, it's executives and shareholders who make the decisions, and they will always be able to pay some programmers enough to replace the other ones. I don't think of developers as having a lot of professional or class solidarity.
shinycode 2y ago
I’d like to see stakeholder only talking to an LLM to built a product with millions of lines of code and push all that into production where other companies depend on it to run themselves. Good luck when there’s a critical bug and the LLM keep saying « looks good to me ». If devs are completely replaced then PO, PM, everyone else can be replaced as well. No need to build companies around software

jopsen 2y ago

LLMs might enable us to build things we couldn't build before. It's just as plausible that the market will simply grow.

NicuCalcea 2y ago
I think so too, but only up to some point when having humans in the loop will start bringing diminishing returns. Just like the number of bank tellers actually grew after the introduction of ATMs, as the market grew because of them, but is now rapidly falling.