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Can someone maliciously work around this by saying they're selling merch with Hindu symbolisms?

by FirmwareBurner 2y ago

riffic 2y ago
why would you even want to walk around wearing this?
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- croisillon 2y ago
  to ensure DOGE doesn't fire you?
- UncleEntity 2y ago
  Back when I was in the reserves I was hanging out with my Navajo buddy in a bar, both of us in uniform, when these two swastika wearing idiots walked in. Pretty amazed there wasn't a bar fight by the amount of shit I was talking. I just thought they wanted attention so was happy to oblige. Thing is, I will die for their right to free speech but I don't have to like what they say nor quench my right to free speech. Plus, when you're walking around with an 82nd Airborne combat patch and a Combat Infantry Badge you get to talk a lot of shit.
willio58 2y ago
I doubt it considering the flurry of pro-Hitler tweets Kanye put out over the past few days (before getting banned from Twitter)
nemomarx 2y ago
if you're using the Hindu one, sure? there's different traditional designs for it.
mvdtnz 2y ago
The site was removed because it wasn't engaging in authentic commerce.
atoav 2y ago
Yeah, Neonazis who know they are lying do that constantly.
ZeWaka 2y ago
That's a different symbol, however.
nelblu 2y ago
The Hindu swastika is generally red in colour, has serif like font and tilted by 45° (compared to the generally accepted Nazi swastika). I'm sure someone can use it maliciously but as someone who grew up looking at Hindu swastika pretty much everywhere, and much later in my life saw the Nazi swastika, at first glance, I didn't really think they were identical.
- ipsum2 2y ago
  Some people can't tell the difference: https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Bay-Area-summer-camp-abruptly-canceled-17231456.php https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Bay-Area-summer-camp-... > A California summer camp tucked away in a woodsy pocket of the Silicon Valley abruptly canceled all summer sessions after several staff members quit over a controversy around a swastika symbol on one of the buildings. > The camp administration explained in its letter that the house had three tiles, each about 12-by-12 inches, with Buddhist swastikas and a lotus embedded in them. When the home was constructed, the symbol would have been considered good luck.
  - nelblu 2y ago
    I'm sure some can't. I didn't mean to say that, I was just telling how I perceived it. In fact, I warn my Hindu friends against using the Hindu swastika on their cars or on their houses here in the West, just so that they don't confuse people here.
  - kstrauser 2y ago
    I'm very sympathetic to both groups here. 1. It's an old symbol. Buddhists had it first, and I don't blame them for wanting to hang onto it. 2. Regardless of context, I don't want a picture of me on the Internet playing and having fun in front of a swastika. By the time you get to the part of the explanation that would show you're not actually a neo-Nazi, people will have stopped listening (if they ever did in the first place). I don't think there are any unreasonable people in that story. It's just an awful situation.
- darth_avocado 2y ago
  Hindu swastika isn’t tilted 45 degrees. You probably proved that even someone who has seen them and understands differences, can still get it wrong.
sumeno 2y ago
You can work around this by just actually selling swastika shirts instead of pretending to
- FirmwareBurner 2y ago
  Major e-commerce platforms clearly won't allow that.
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kylehotchkiss 2y ago
That’s not something people would wear on a shirt; I think? It’s a symbol you’d see drawn onto things as a sort of blessing with red tika or a decoration on a temple. (Source: former partner was Hindu)
dathinab 2y ago
Hindu symbols are mirrored and in generally visually in a different context. Through there are some funny extra bad coincidence like the symbol Japan used in street maps for hospitals(?) until somewhat recently before the Olympics. But in general IRL people tend to not humor someone trying to bypass rules by definition nitpicking if their intend is very clear. I mean there is a reason law tends to focus on outcome, over intend, over exact details of your actions. Through naturally if they need an excuse for their (in-) action then humoring definition nitpicking sometimes does the job.

Can someone maliciously work around this by saying they're selling merch with Hindu symbolisms?

riffic 2y ago

why would you even want to walk around wearing this?

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croisillon 2y ago
to ensure DOGE doesn't fire you?
UncleEntity 2y ago
Back when I was in the reserves I was hanging out with my Navajo buddy in a bar, both of us in uniform, when these two swastika wearing idiots walked in. Pretty amazed there wasn't a bar fight by the amount of shit I was talking. I just thought they wanted attention so was happy to oblige. Thing is, I will die for their right to free speech but I don't have to like what they say nor quench my right to free speech. Plus, when you're walking around with an 82nd Airborne combat patch and a Combat Infantry Badge you get to talk a lot of shit.

willio58 2y ago

I doubt it considering the flurry of pro-Hitler tweets Kanye put out over the past few days (before getting banned from Twitter)

nemomarx 2y ago

if you're using the Hindu one, sure? there's different traditional designs for it.

mvdtnz 2y ago

The site was removed because it wasn't engaging in authentic commerce.

atoav 2y ago

Yeah, Neonazis who know they are lying do that constantly.

ZeWaka 2y ago

That's a different symbol, however.

nelblu 2y ago

The Hindu swastika is generally red in colour, has serif like font and tilted by 45° (compared to the generally accepted Nazi swastika). I'm sure someone can use it maliciously but as someone who grew up looking at Hindu swastika pretty much everywhere, and much later in my life saw the Nazi swastika, at first glance, I didn't really think they were identical.

ipsum2 2y ago
Some people can't tell the difference: https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Bay-Area-summer-camp-abruptly-canceled-17231456.php https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Bay-Area-summer-camp-... > A California summer camp tucked away in a woodsy pocket of the Silicon Valley abruptly canceled all summer sessions after several staff members quit over a controversy around a swastika symbol on one of the buildings. > The camp administration explained in its letter that the house had three tiles, each about 12-by-12 inches, with Buddhist swastikas and a lotus embedded in them. When the home was constructed, the symbol would have been considered good luck.
- nelblu 2y ago
  I'm sure some can't. I didn't mean to say that, I was just telling how I perceived it. In fact, I warn my Hindu friends against using the Hindu swastika on their cars or on their houses here in the West, just so that they don't confuse people here.
- kstrauser 2y ago
  I'm very sympathetic to both groups here. 1. It's an old symbol. Buddhists had it first, and I don't blame them for wanting to hang onto it. 2. Regardless of context, I don't want a picture of me on the Internet playing and having fun in front of a swastika. By the time you get to the part of the explanation that would show you're not actually a neo-Nazi, people will have stopped listening (if they ever did in the first place). I don't think there are any unreasonable people in that story. It's just an awful situation.
darth_avocado 2y ago
Hindu swastika isn’t tilted 45 degrees. You probably proved that even someone who has seen them and understands differences, can still get it wrong.

sumeno 2y ago

You can work around this by just actually selling swastika shirts instead of pretending to

FirmwareBurner 2y ago
Major e-commerce platforms clearly won't allow that.

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kylehotchkiss 2y ago

That’s not something people would wear on a shirt; I think? It’s a symbol you’d see drawn onto things as a sort of blessing with red tika or a decoration on a temple. (Source: former partner was Hindu)

dathinab 2y ago

Hindu symbols are mirrored and in generally visually in a different context. Through there are some funny extra bad coincidence like the symbol Japan used in street maps for hospitals(?) until somewhat recently before the Olympics. But in general IRL people tend to not humor someone trying to bypass rules by definition nitpicking if their intend is very clear. I mean there is a reason law tends to focus on outcome, over intend, over exact details of your actions. Through naturally if they need an excuse for their (in-) action then humoring definition nitpicking sometimes does the job.