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I'm going to make an argument centered around hygiene. Many people in this world have certain bathroom habits, but generally we believe a modern bathroom is pro
by bloomingkales 2y ago
I'm going to make an argument centered around hygiene. Many people in this world have certain bathroom habits, but generally we believe a modern bathroom is probably the best place for us to handle things. Some people don't, some people find it perfectly fine to piss in a corner if they really need to out on the street. What are you gonna do?
We can easily show a lot of people why WFH is the correct way, but some people will ... you know, still enjoy a good piss on the street. It's like, something is wrong with them you know?
So we can't really consider the pissing on the street people's (in this case, the people that love the office) opinions too seriously. It's unhygienic.
RTO people are trying to make the world worse.
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- anal_reactor 2y ago> I'm going to make an argument centered around hygiene Instant win in any discussion because nobody wants to be considered unhygienic, even if it makes zero measurable difference. Same as "security" because nobody wants to be blamed for a security incident, even if costs of potential incident are less than the costs of maintaining security solutions. Same as "return to office" because nobody wants to be blamed for negative consequences of WFH even if they're negligible.
- bloomingkales 2y agoMy optimistic outlook? I think AI will eliminate waste in tech to the point where developers will launch their own businesses (we won’t need the waste of project managers, agile, administrative roles, etc). A new type of business owner will emerge and these types are WFH-minded first. This is the group that will elevate wFH permanently, since these developers will be part of the exodus from corporate America (leaving behind the culture of in-office work). We just need the courage to keep crossing the Bering Strait.
- rightbyte 2y agoI think it is optimistic to assume the position of power or close to power (agile clergy, 'sales', middle management etc) are more disposable than programmers. Their class loyalty is just way higher than the workers'. Programmer coops are not really a thing. You wont get the deals.
- bloomingkales 2y agoI’m not suggesting an evolution of the current machine, I’m suggesting an exodus. Rebuild these apps without a single one of those bastards is what I’m saying. We could do it if wanted to. Rebuild GitHub, rebuild LinkedIn, rebuild Jira, without all the grifters.
- cess11 2y ago"Programmer coops are not really a thing." It's actually pretty common, usually small consulting firms and web site boutiques.
- rightbyte 2y agoYe good point I might need to rescind that.
- throw734885 2y agoSome people's pets will shit right at centre of office. Or in kitchen... Shit then gets smeared everywhere with paper towels!