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Some other alternatives, also haven't hearded about this one: - SN DBS - https://www.snsystems.com/ - Used by a lot of game developers, to spread mostly comp

by malkia 2y ago

Some other alternatives, also haven't hearded about this one: - SN DBS - https://www.snsystems.com/ - Used by a lot of game developers, to spread mostly compilation (but also shader compile, or custom jobs). - IncrediBuild - https://www.incredibuild.com/ - Fast build - https://www.fastbuild.org/ - icecream - https://github.com/icecc/icecream - Goma - https://chromium.googlesource.com/infra/goma/client/ - Bazel / buck / like with various RBE back ends - https://bazel.build/remote/rbe - distcc - https://www.distcc.org/ - ElectricAccelerator - https://docs.cloudbees.com/docs/cloudbees-build-acceleration/11.0/ - and many others... I've had mostly experience with IncrediBuild in the past, currently SN-DBS, but colleagues are looking into FASTBuild. Though my personal favorite is bazel

jcelerier 2y ago
From the README this tool has been built because distcc was too slow
- gjvc 2y ago
  Yes. This makes sense.
- menaerus 2y ago
  distcc was really slow IME as well. It did not know how to optimally distribute the work across different build nodes. AFAIR distcc simply assumed that all build nodes are created equal and it also disregarded the load on the nodes resulting in over-saturation with build jobs. However, this is something that icecream aimed to solve, and in my case it really did. I can't remember the actual numbers but it provided a major gain and it was super easy to set up. So I guess it would be more nteresting to see how nocc compares to icecream instead of distcc.
bobmcnamara 2y ago
We discovered that while incredibuild did trap the system calls needed to stream and cache files from the building computer, at the time they did not trap Beep()!
- malkia 2y ago
  ha! we've used it really long time ago, and there was something a bit non-standard with their C++ pre-processor, back then it wasn't working with one of our macros, and by the way they were displaying messages, and later searched these message in their binary I think I've found pascal-like strings (e.g. byte or word with length, then characters), so I thought it might've been written in Borland/Delphi Pascal?
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gjvc 2y ago
Just listing these without any form of comparison is useless.
- malkia 2y ago
  Giving a comparison - e.g. evaluation - is a work paid hours. Also no one probably in their mind is ever going to do such an evaluation, or if it's done, it'll be one where you had to scratch one solution because of some limiting factor required by your company (but that factor may not exist outside - for example "support for Windows", or "works with precompiled libraries, does not expect everything to come from source code", etc., etc.)
  - gjvc 2y ago
    word salad. write less but say more.
    - smegsicle 2y ago
      a useless comment lacking any kind of comparison why don't you say what they meant to say but better, in less words?
      - gjvc 2y ago
        because listing alternatives as a response is like saying "it also rains" when someone remarks. on how sunny it is. yes, it's true, but it's useless without discussing why it's preferable or not in what circumstances.
johnisgood 2y ago
distcc vs ccache?

by malkia 2y ago

jcelerier 2y ago

From the README this tool has been built because distcc was too slow

gjvc 2y ago
Yes. This makes sense.
menaerus 2y ago
distcc was really slow IME as well. It did not know how to optimally distribute the work across different build nodes. AFAIR distcc simply assumed that all build nodes are created equal and it also disregarded the load on the nodes resulting in over-saturation with build jobs. However, this is something that icecream aimed to solve, and in my case it really did. I can't remember the actual numbers but it provided a major gain and it was super easy to set up. So I guess it would be more nteresting to see how nocc compares to icecream instead of distcc.

bobmcnamara 2y ago

We discovered that while incredibuild did trap the system calls needed to stream and cache files from the building computer, at the time they did not trap Beep()!

malkia 2y ago
ha! we've used it really long time ago, and there was something a bit non-standard with their C++ pre-processor, back then it wasn't working with one of our macros, and by the way they were displaying messages, and later searched these message in their binary I think I've found pascal-like strings (e.g. byte or word with length, then characters), so I thought it might've been written in Borland/Delphi Pascal?

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gjvc 2y ago

Just listing these without any form of comparison is useless.

malkia 2y ago
Giving a comparison - e.g. evaluation - is a work paid hours. Also no one probably in their mind is ever going to do such an evaluation, or if it's done, it'll be one where you had to scratch one solution because of some limiting factor required by your company (but that factor may not exist outside - for example "support for Windows", or "works with precompiled libraries, does not expect everything to come from source code", etc., etc.)
- gjvc 2y ago
  word salad. write less but say more.
  - smegsicle 2y ago
    a useless comment lacking any kind of comparison why don't you say what they meant to say but better, in less words?
    - gjvc 2y ago
      because listing alternatives as a response is like saying "it also rains" when someone remarks. on how sunny it is. yes, it's true, but it's useless without discussing why it's preferable or not in what circumstances.

johnisgood 2y ago

distcc vs ccache?